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Go, Howard! I wish he’d write stuff like that for Time Out. (Maybe he does and I missed it.) Thanks for making this I-can-only-be-frank-on-Facebook discussion available for the logged out masses who fear “the poke.”

Go, Howard! I wish he’d write stuff like that for Time Out. (Maybe he does and I missed it.) Thanks for making this I-can-only-be-frank-on-Facebook discussion available for the logged out masses who fear “the poke.”

Go, Howard! I wish he’d write stuff like that for Time Out. (Maybe he does and I missed it.) Thanks for making this I-can-only-be-frank-on-Facebook discussion available for the logged out masses who fear “the poke.”

I’m not quite sure what you mean by you wished I’d write the same sort of stuff for TONY. I can be accused in my writing of a lot of things— being tedious, long-winded, in love with myself—but pulling my punches? Never.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by you wished I’d write the same sort of stuff for TONY. I can be accused in my writing of a lot of things— being tedious, long-winded, in love with myself—but pulling my punches? Never.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by you wished I’d write the same sort of stuff for TONY. I can be accused in my writing of a lot of things— being tedious, long-winded, in love with myself—but pulling my punches? Never.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by you wished I’d write the same sort of stuff for TONY. I can be accused in my writing of a lot of things— being tedious, long-winded, in love with myself—but pulling my punches? Never.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by you wished I’d write the same sort of stuff for TONY. I can be accused in my writing of a lot of things— being tedious, long-winded, in love with myself—but pulling my punches? Never.

Your TONY writing and editing is great, I just don’t remember reading anything quite like “it’s a simple fact that [Deitch's] taste has always been in his mouth, and I don’t think he’s the great genius with money that he’s purported to be.” If our local art press wrote this candidly all the time, Deitch might not be running MOCA but would still be doing performance art.

Your TONY writing and editing is great, I just don’t remember reading anything quite like “it’s a simple fact that [Deitch's] taste has always been in his mouth, and I don’t think he’s the great genius with money that he’s purported to be.” If our local art press wrote this candidly all the time, Deitch might not be running MOCA but would still be doing performance art.

Your TONY writing and editing is great, I just don’t remember reading anything quite like “it’s a simple fact that [Deitch's] taste has always been in his mouth, and I don’t think he’s the great genius with money that he’s purported to be.” If our local art press wrote this candidly all the time, Deitch might not be running MOCA but would still be doing performance art.

You are correct, Howard. It would seem that global art would provide a larger spectrum of visual production than the narrow row that has been positioned. By electing a non-native for the position, MOCA has greatly emphasized the idea of portability. I think it’s about time for the museum to be reformatted. Imagine if a group of artists came together with pieces of work and people from the community could invest five dollars up to 10 times for a work of art. Then, people could vote for what goes into an exhibition.

You are correct, Howard. It would seem that global art would provide a larger spectrum of visual production than the narrow row that has been positioned. By electing a non-native for the position, MOCA has greatly emphasized the idea of portability. I think it’s about time for the museum to be reformatted. Imagine if a group of artists came together with pieces of work and people from the community could invest five dollars up to 10 times for a work of art. Then, people could vote for what goes into an exhibition.

You are correct, Howard. It would seem that global art would provide a larger spectrum of visual production than the narrow row that has been positioned. By electing a non-native for the position, MOCA has greatly emphasized the idea of portability. I think it’s about time for the museum to be reformatted. Imagine if a group of artists came together with pieces of work and people from the community could invest five dollars up to 10 times for a work of art. Then, people could vote for what goes into an exhibition.

You are correct, Howard. It would seem that global art would provide a larger spectrum of visual production than the narrow row that has been positioned. By electing a non-native for the position, MOCA has greatly emphasized the idea of portability. I think it’s about time for the museum to be reformatted. Imagine if a group of artists came together with pieces of work and people from the community could invest five dollars up to 10 times for a work of art. Then, people could vote for what goes into an exhibition.

Tom, here’s the deal: Time Out New York is a guide to its readers about where to go and what to do in New York City (with the subtext, I should add, of how to get laid or wasted, not necessarily in that order). Accordingly, TONY’s art section follows that template—not so much with regards to the sex and drinking, but what’s worth seeing in the city’s museums and galleries and what is not. I didn’t think that Deitch decamping to L.A. was really relevant to that mission, though we have obviously covered his galleries. So I made no issue of the news of his appointment in the pages of TONY. I suppose I could have blogged about it, but the pissing contest between Tyler Green and Jerry Saltz over the Deitch story pretty much used up the oxygen around it, so I skipped it. The only reason I weighed in when I did was because I was responding to the specific news Paddy was relaying; then Zack Peabody responded to me, and it went on from there. However, I will say that if the news had been that Deitch was becoming MoMA’s director, I would have definitely commented on that in TONY.

Tom, here’s the deal: Time Out New York is a guide to its readers about where to go and what to do in New York City (with the subtext, I should add, of how to get laid or wasted, not necessarily in that order). Accordingly, TONY’s art section follows that template—not so much with regards to the sex and drinking, but what’s worth seeing in the city’s museums and galleries and what is not. I didn’t think that Deitch decamping to L.A. was really relevant to that mission, though we have obviously covered his galleries. So I made no issue of the news of his appointment in the pages of TONY. I suppose I could have blogged about it, but the pissing contest between Tyler Green and Jerry Saltz over the Deitch story pretty much used up the oxygen around it, so I skipped it. The only reason I weighed in when I did was because I was responding to the specific news Paddy was relaying; then Zack Peabody responded to me, and it went on from there. However, I will say that if the news had been that Deitch was becoming MoMA’s director, I would have definitely commented on that in TONY.

Tom, here’s the deal: Time Out New York is a guide to its readers about where to go and what to do in New York City (with the subtext, I should add, of how to get laid or wasted, not necessarily in that order). Accordingly, TONY’s art section follows that template—not so much with regards to the sex and drinking, but what’s worth seeing in the city’s museums and galleries and what is not. I didn’t think that Deitch decamping to L.A. was really relevant to that mission, though we have obviously covered his galleries. So I made no issue of the news of his appointment in the pages of TONY. I suppose I could have blogged about it, but the pissing contest between Tyler Green and Jerry Saltz over the Deitch story pretty much used up the oxygen around it, so I skipped it. The only reason I weighed in when I did was because I was responding to the specific news Paddy was relaying; then Zack Peabody responded to me, and it went on from there. However, I will say that if the news had been that Deitch was becoming MoMA’s director, I would have definitely commented on that in TONY.

@everyone Although I didn’t say so explicitly, I published Howard’s thoughts because while I originally fell in with the “Deitch is great with money” school of thinking, reading his take on the matter made me reconsider that position (well that and learning that Sotheby’s became a partial owner of Deitch Projects in the late 90′s when he did poorly.) Also, I think there’s a great deal of merit to the thought that local conditions and communities matter. The fallacy that the internet reaches anyone all over the world is revealed by local blogs such as my own, in which New York readership far outweighs that of other locations. I couldn’t just relocate and I’m a blogger. If that’s true of me, I would think the same would have to be the case for Deitch. He’ll be spending a lot of time building connections he doesn’t yet have.

@everyone Although I didn’t say so explicitly, I published Howard’s thoughts because while I originally fell in with the “Deitch is great with money” school of thinking, reading his take on the matter made me reconsider that position (well that and learning that Sotheby’s became a partial owner of Deitch Projects in the late 90′s when he did poorly.) Also, I think there’s a great deal of merit to the thought that local conditions and communities matter. The fallacy that the internet reaches anyone all over the world is revealed by local blogs such as my own, in which New York readership far outweighs that of other locations. I couldn’t just relocate and I’m a blogger. If that’s true of me, I would think the same would have to be the case for Deitch. He’ll be spending a lot of time building connections he doesn’t yet have.

@everyone Although I didn’t say so explicitly, I published Howard’s thoughts because while I originally fell in with the “Deitch is great with money” school of thinking, reading his take on the matter made me reconsider that position (well that and learning that Sotheby’s became a partial owner of Deitch Projects in the late 90′s when he did poorly.) Also, I think there’s a great deal of merit to the thought that local conditions and communities matter. The fallacy that the internet reaches anyone all over the world is revealed by local blogs such as my own, in which New York readership far outweighs that of other locations. I couldn’t just relocate and I’m a blogger. If that’s true of me, I would think the same would have to be the case for Deitch. He’ll be spending a lot of time building connections he doesn’t yet have.

@everyone Although I didn’t say so explicitly, I published Howard’s thoughts because while I originally fell in with the “Deitch is great with money” school of thinking, reading his take on the matter made me reconsider that position (well that and learning that Sotheby’s became a partial owner of Deitch Projects in the late 90′s when he did poorly.) Also, I think there’s a great deal of merit to the thought that local conditions and communities matter. The fallacy that the internet reaches anyone all over the world is revealed by local blogs such as my own, in which New York readership far outweighs that of other locations. I couldn’t just relocate and I’m a blogger. If that’s true of me, I would think the same would have to be the case for Deitch. He’ll be spending a lot of time building connections he doesn’t yet have.

My comment wasn’t addressed to the narrow issue of Deitch moving to LA but the Deitch cult generally. That I expect more from Time Out than other local media is a compliment to Howard Halle, who turned its art beat from a mere “where to shop” guide into a strong critical presence in New York. That said, New York losing a major dealer to an LA museum and the dealer having limited taste and money skill should come under anyone’s definition of a “strong local story.”

My comment wasn’t addressed to the narrow issue of Deitch moving to LA but the Deitch cult generally. That I expect more from Time Out than other local media is a compliment to Howard Halle, who turned its art beat from a mere “where to shop” guide into a strong critical presence in New York. That said, New York losing a major dealer to an LA museum and the dealer having limited taste and money skill should come under anyone’s definition of a “strong local story.”

I agree with Tom on this point — these opinions could stand to reach a few more New Yorkers.

I agree with Tom on this point — these opinions could stand to reach a few more New Yorkers.

I agree with Tom on this point — these opinions could stand to reach a few more New Yorkers.

I agree with Tom on this point — these opinions could stand to reach a few more New Yorkers.