Work of Art: Opposites Attract a Litany of Common Art World Myths

by Paddy Johnson on July 29, 2010 · 178 comments

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Peregrine and Mark discuss their diptych with the judges

I hope Bravo re-calibrates its search for art that makes the viewer “feel” something because it seems to encourage the absurd amount of bad portraiture. This ranges from Abdi’s race car driver to this weeks slew of shirtless and pantless portraits. None were any good. Still, this episode offered the capable Ryan McGinness as the guest judge and was more engaging than most. The drama and the sheer volume of contemporary art myths showcased proved gripping.

Pairing the remaining artists off so they could create two unified pieces about universal opposites, the groups and themes seemed made for the contestants. Miles and Jaclyn received Male/Female, Mark and Peregrine Heaven/Hell and Nicole and Abdi Order/Chaos.

Host China Chow leaves after giving them their assignments, and conflict arises almost immediately. “Mark is really interested in lightness for heaven and darkness for hell. I’m more interested in something that might be more subtle” Peregrine chides continuing, “I have a better sense of conceptual art than Mark does. I believe I can elevate his work and still stick to my work” This patronizing statement is not Peregrine’s finest moment, particularly because her concept was no more sophisticated: The near-death and survival of Mark as represented by a scar on his belly. Mark received emergency surgery when his stomach exploded in his early twenties.

Peregrine buys into the same contemporary art myth Simon de Pury later articulates when he worries that Mark’s work will be too literal. That art should be subtle and complicated is common mis-representation of how the art world evaluates art — it actually privileges unique expression — and it’s this confusion that continually creates vague, inarticulate discussion even amongst professionals. After all, neither of the qualities Peregrine laid out make sense in a challenge calling for strong opposition. In fact it dilutes the potency of Heaven and Hell.

Never to be burdened with this problem, Miles provides the most grossly insidious work the program has showcased: Get the sexy Jaclyn naked and masturbating. UPDATE: This narrative was constructed by Bravo, and does not reflect the intentions of the artist. Read the AFC comment section for more details. Of course, he’d have the audience believe his piece is only what he constructed — a wall he’s punched holes in to represent a loss of control — but that’s not the case. He easily dominates and manipulates Jaclyn, taking on both control and loss of control. Presumably this was done as a means of covering his own ass should the collaboration with Jaclyn fail but it is completely lacking in all human decency. I would have liked to have seen him eliminated just for that.

Meanwhile, Bravo’s typical editing has Nicole Nadeau looking like an inarticulate freak, when in fact she simply buys into the idea that art needs a higher concept. This often results in muddled concepts such as her handcrank ticker tape of social norms. It’s a funny piece with a wooden head as a mouth piece, but the concept was forced and relied too heavily on poorly conceived text. She could have ditched the text. She also should have let Abdi figure out him painting on his own. It’s unclear if Nicole seeded her partner the idea of Socrates Cave[sic], but it seems like a concept she would gravitate towards; A group of people chained together watching a blank wall as an allegory for the concept that ideas more than materials are the highest form of reality.

Whatever the case, Abdi’s interpretation of the cave is an amateurish abstract painting that Jaclyn Santos criticizes for being “stuck between figuration and abstraction”. Abdi’s piece had problems, but Santos hardly identifies them. There’s nothing wrong with ambiguous painting, so it’s unclear why Jaclyn doesn’t like it past it not being beautiful enough. “My work has a beautiful simplicity.” she chirps contrasting her own work to Abdi’s.

The crits themselves were a little better in this episode even if I didn’t agree with the results. Ryan McGinnis wasn’t bad as a guest judge but I’d like to see a female artist take that role. The fact that there’s been none is literally offensive. A run down of the results below.

THE ELIMINATED

LEFT: Mark Velasquez, Heaven, RIGHT: Peregrine Honig, Hell. Common Bravo, get your act together and photograph this work professionally. This is an embarrassment.

Mark Velasquez gets the cut this week, a decision I don’t wholly agree with even if his concepts have continually been unoriginal. Sure his photograph could have been a little more challenging, but he was eliminated for making a picture too literal, at the same time as Jaclyn Santos was rewarded for producing a nude painting of herself masturbating as a representation of female. Peregrine’s work wasn’t that great either, and Bravo’s editing of Miles’ defense of it in the crit makes it seem like he’s the only one willing to give Mark a beat down. That seems unlikely. Also his criticism that Mark didn’t stretch his materials, is off point, (though it reveals Mendenhall’s own strategies for art making.) Mark’s issues are not materially based, but lie his lack of creative approaches. This can change over time of course, but that takes years.

Incidentally, Mark posted a photograph of his original idea, which clearly would have been much better as it’s a deeply creepy vision of heaven. I can’t say I blame Peregrine for refusing to model for that though.

THE PASSABLE

LEFT: Abdi Farah, Chaoes RIGHT: Nicole Nadeau: Order

Ryan McGinness noted Nicole’s work comes off as a little rinky dink, an issue in the last episode as well. Abdi suffered some poor treatment in this critique to the extent that I actually felt bad for him. After being told his painting was wholly unsuccessful the artist asks what he should work on. McGinness responds, “the fact that you’re even asking for advice is the wrong approach. You should be asking yourself.”

While there’s some truth this sentiment, the feedback isn’t particularly generous. Somehow Abdi managed to avoid picking up almost any knowledge about contemporary art while in school, and since he’s not an untrained artist, his work consistently looks off. If Abdi is serious about being a professional artist, his answer is this: Look at more shows. Farah doesn’t look at enough contemporary art and it’s obvious.

THE GROTESQUE

LEFT: Miles Mendenhall, Masculine, RIGHT: Jaclyn Santos, Feminine

I wish Miles were penalized for this piece. There’s been a lot of bad art on this show, but this is the only work narrative I think that actually debases the art world. UPDATE: Read the AFC comment section, for more information on how Bravo created this false narrative.

BEST QUOTES

“I like that they had to deal with big ideas so accidentally, their own idea of themselves would start to come through” Jerry Saltz

“I just want to think of what I could represent to gain control that’s still feminine, you know – Jaclyn Santos, the staunch feminist.

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  • http://sammckinniss.com Sam

    Its really disheartening to see Miles taking over the competition, taking over the whole narrative arc, really. I hope Bravo has a plot twist in store featuring Miles’s dramatic fall from favor.

    Punching a wall is an instance of a man using violence to assert physical dominance, commandeering control. It was literally an act of penetration. In effect, taking the reigns from his female collaborator, Jaclyn, pictured nude and self-pleasuring for some reason, her image propped up right there as if standing in awe of his penetration drama. The sexy painting erected on an armature that Miles built for her, so that her painting could stand witness like a female fan lost in rapt oblivion. Losing control? Please. Miles got a lot of quality dick time in on this episode.

    And why oh why didn’t Jaclyn fire back at McGinnis’s pervy inquiry? Girl, stand up!

    Peregrine seems to be the only contestant left with some measure of sensitivity, decency and talent. Hopefully with something nice to offer at least, if given the cash and solo show.

    • http://jeffevans.carbonmade.com JeffEvans

      For being the only contestant with some measure of decency, Peregrine was quick to throw Mark under the bus. She told the judges that Mark hadn’t given her more, which from Mark’s puzzled look, she had never mentioned to him.

      Nicole and Abdi have more sensitivity, decency and talent (although not as much talent, in Abdi’s case) as Peregrine. Unfortunately, decency isn’t a condition for winning the show and manipulative Miles will probably win.

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

        Yeah, and although all the work sucked in this competition, Peregrine’s piece was the worst. I still would have sent Jaclyn home since she’s a lesser “talent”. At this point discussing who should be eliminated is a little ridiculous though since almost everyone remaining has made more than one object they should have been sent home for. Abdi and Jaclyn should have been amongst the first to go. Peregrine and Nicole would have lasted longer, but stronger artists than both were eliminated earlier in the show.

        • http://jeffevans.carbonmade.com JeffEvans

          The problem was that the dualities lent themselves to cliche’s, especially in the limited time the artists were given. Sartre said “Hell is other people.” An artwork based upon what is hell for Peregrine personally, would’ve been more interesting than what she did.

          Interesting sidenote: Turner Prize winner Jeremy Deller did an art project for the London subway system, having subway train drivers quoting things like Gandhi’s “There is more to life than increasing its speed” and Sartre’s “Hell is other people.”
          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8117567.stm

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      One other note to Sam’s lament that Jaclyn didn’t fire back at McGinnis’s inquiry: I didn’t see his question as inappropriate at all. His point is that her painting would have been better if it wasn’t so staged. Jaclyn claims she masturbates standing up and it’s a bald face lie. Of course she doesn’t, which is why that painting mimics a lot of soft core porn: she’s put herself on display. If she were producing a painting that were about controlling her own body, she would have come up with a pose that reflected that. Instead, she’s created yet another picture in which she’s a helpless object of desire.

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        @ AFC: How do you know how she masturbates!? Standing is pretty common, as I’m sure lots of women do it in the shower! And that’s just one easy example.

        • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

          Ha! Touche. I guess I didn’t think it was as common as it is.

      • http://sammckinniss.com Sam

        Right. I did not think McGinnis’s question was out of line, it was fair. Jaclyn’s pause and timid response was what I thought was frustrating. Although I readily admit the comparison is ridiculous, I thought of Lynda Benglis’s ArtForum ad with the dildo and thought, now that’s how a feminist artist does the Male/Female duality, incorporates masturbation imagery, and wins in a man’s world at a man’s game.

        To the indecency of Peregrine: whatever. true. I wanted Judith to win. I think top three is Peregrine, Jaclyn and Miles. Out of those three, I want Peregrine to win.

        • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

          @ Sam: Thanks for the long lost shout out!

      • patpatpatpat

        agreed. that was totally appropriate. You can’t make that image thinking questions similar to that one won’t be asked. Not everyone is going to be fully aware of female masturbation habits. His question was off-putting but still in the realm of appropriateness.

        This is a similar situation to when Jerry Saltz asked Trong “Who is Tom Friedman?” and then a bunch of people got pissy about him supposedly not knowing who Tom Friedman is. Ryan, like Jerry, just asked a poorly worded question.

  • http://sammckinniss.com Sam

    Its really disheartening to see Miles taking over the competition, taking over the whole narrative arc, really. I hope Bravo has a plot twist in store featuring Miles’s dramatic fall from favor.

    Punching a wall is an instance of a man using violence to assert physical dominance, commandeering control. It was literally an act of penetration. In effect, taking the reigns from his female collaborator, Jaclyn, pictured nude and self-pleasuring for some reason, her image propped up right there as if standing in awe of his penetration drama. The sexy painting erected on an armature that Miles built for her, so that her painting could stand witness like a female fan lost in rapt oblivion. Losing control? Please. Miles got a lot of quality dick time in on this episode.

    And why oh why didn’t Jaclyn fire back at McGinnis’s pervy inquiry? Girl, stand up!

    Peregrine seems to be the only contestant left with some measure of sensitivity, decency and talent. Hopefully with something nice to offer at least, if given the cash and solo show.

    • http://jeffevans.carbonmade.com JeffEvans

      For being the only contestant with some measure of decency, Peregrine was quick to throw Mark under the bus. She told the judges that Mark hadn’t given her more, which from Mark’s puzzled look, she had never mentioned to him.

      Nicole and Abdi have more sensitivity, decency and talent (although not as much talent, in Abdi’s case) as Peregrine. Unfortunately, decency isn’t a condition for winning the show and manipulative Miles will probably win.

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

        Yeah, and although all the work sucked in this competition, Peregrine’s piece was the worst. I still would have sent Jaclyn home since she’s a lesser “talent”. At this point discussing who should be eliminated is a little ridiculous though since almost everyone remaining has made more than one object they should have been sent home for. Abdi and Jaclyn should have been amongst the first to go. Peregrine and Nicole would have lasted longer, but stronger artists than both were eliminated earlier in the show.

        • http://jeffevans.carbonmade.com JeffEvans

          The problem was that the dualities lent themselves to cliche’s, especially in the limited time the artists were given. Sartre said “Hell is other people.” An artwork based upon what is hell for Peregrine personally, would’ve been more interesting than what she did.

          Interesting sidenote: Turner Prize winner Jeremy Deller did an art project for the London subway system, having subway train drivers quoting things like Gandhi’s “There is more to life than increasing its speed” and Sartre’s “Hell is other people.”
          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8117567.stm

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      One other note to Sam’s lament that Jaclyn didn’t fire back at McGinnis’s inquiry: I didn’t see his question as inappropriate at all. His point is that her painting would have been better if it wasn’t so staged. Jaclyn claims she masturbates standing up and it’s a bald face lie. Of course she doesn’t, which is why that painting mimics a lot of soft core porn: she’s put herself on display. If she were producing a painting that were about controlling her own body, she would have come up with a pose that reflected that. Instead, she’s created yet another picture in which she’s a helpless object of desire.

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        @ AFC: How do you know how she masturbates!? Standing is pretty common, as I’m sure lots of women do it in the shower! And that’s just one easy example.

        • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

          Ha! Touche. I guess I didn’t think it was as common as it is.

      • http://sammckinniss.com Sam

        Right. I did not think McGinnis’s question was out of line, it was fair. Jaclyn’s pause and timid response was what I thought was frustrating. Although I readily admit the comparison is ridiculous, I thought of Lynda Benglis’s ArtForum ad with the dildo and thought, now that’s how a feminist artist does the Male/Female duality, incorporates masturbation imagery, and wins in a man’s world at a man’s game.

        To the indecency of Peregrine: whatever. true. I wanted Judith to win. I think top three is Peregrine, Jaclyn and Miles. Out of those three, I want Peregrine to win.

        • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

          @ Sam: Thanks for the long lost shout out!

      • patpatpatpat

        agreed. that was totally appropriate. You can’t make that image thinking questions similar to that one won’t be asked. Not everyone is going to be fully aware of female masturbation habits. His question was off-putting but still in the realm of appropriateness.

        This is a similar situation to when Jerry Saltz asked Trong “Who is Tom Friedman?” and then a bunch of people got pissy about him supposedly not knowing who Tom Friedman is. Ryan, like Jerry, just asked a poorly worded question.

  • Not Ben

    James Franco should show up as a judge and judge the judge’s judging.

    • http://www.jebaker.com jebaker

      The absolute best episode idea yet.

      • Not Ben

        Thank you jebaker.

        I believe that art is just as important to humanity as religion and science. But a show like this needs to realize that you can’t capture an artist’s significance in hour long segments once a week where the contestants have a day to work on a given assignment. These days an artist’s body of work is what counts—not individual pieces whose goal is to win a tailor-made contest.

        I like to imagine this show with established art stars competing before they were art stars. So for arguments sake lets say it was Picasso, Da Vinci, O’Keefe, Lange, Bacon, Warhol, Van Gogh, Martin, Pollock, Krasner and Kahlo on the show….

        Actually now that I think about it, it would make for some damn good tv. nevermind

  • Not Ben

    James Franco should show up as a judge and judge the judge’s judging.

    • http://www.jebaker.com jebaker

      The absolute best episode idea yet.

      • Not Ben

        Thank you jebaker.

        I believe that art is just as important to humanity as religion and science. But a show like this needs to realize that you can’t capture an artist’s significance in hour long segments once a week where the contestants have a day to work on a given assignment. These days an artist’s body of work is what counts—not individual pieces whose goal is to win a tailor-made contest.

        I like to imagine this show with established art stars competing before they were art stars. So for arguments sake lets say it was Picasso, Da Vinci, O’Keefe, Lange, Bacon, Warhol, Van Gogh, Martin, Pollock, Krasner and Kahlo on the show….

        Actually now that I think about it, it would make for some damn good tv. nevermind

  • http://jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com/ Jesse P. Martin

    Jaclyn should’ve equipped herself with a mighty WANGA strap-on and mercilessly punish-fucked Miles (and videotaped it for the judges, of course). I think this would’ve covered all of their “male/female universal opposite” conundrums — as well as Jaclyn’s concerns that Miles was dictating the piece, and AFC’s feeling that Miles should be “penalized” — and won them the challenge. It would also have won them the heart & minds of their viewing audience and pervacious judging panel.

  • http://jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com/ Jesse P. Martin

    Jaclyn should’ve equipped herself with a mighty WANGA strap-on and mercilessly punish-fucked Miles (and videotaped it for the judges, of course). I think this would’ve covered all of their “male/female universal opposite” conundrums — as well as Jaclyn’s concerns that Miles was dictating the piece, and AFC’s feeling that Miles should be “penalized” — and won them the challenge. It would also have won them the heart & minds of their viewing audience and pervacious judging panel.

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    Been thinking about the challenge and the fact that none of the pairs really tried to bring their opposites into a whole, which of course they really are because opposites depend on each other for their meaning, as two sides of a coin. And so I think they all failed for that reason. They could have aimed to have the whole become more than the sum of its parts. There was a tiny bit of that intended in Miles and Jackie, but they didn’t seem to actually come to a similar perception of what that broader concept would be.

    • http://jeffevans.carbonmade.com JeffEvans

      Yeah, it didn’t seem as if the works of art for each duality were having a conversation with each other, but were separate and stand-alone. Jackie’s art would’ve been more cohesive with Miles’ if it involved how women deal with male loss of control or how women lose control.

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        In the end I do have to remember to allow for the fact that WHEN YOU ARE THERE it’s pretty hard to think. I found it the strangest part…to actually just silently think in front of cameras. Between the time you get a challenge, and the time you leave for supplies is like 30 min…filled with activity, people talking, and cameras hovering around you. So now, in the comfort of my studio, I can think of what seem like brilliant responses…but who knows what I would have come up with if I was there. Which I’m glad I wasn’t! Mostly because I got what I wanted out of it…and then got out while the getting was good. (open to interpretation)

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    Been thinking about the challenge and the fact that none of the pairs really tried to bring their opposites into a whole, which of course they really are because opposites depend on each other for their meaning, as two sides of a coin. And so I think they all failed for that reason. They could have aimed to have the whole become more than the sum of its parts. There was a tiny bit of that intended in Miles and Jackie, but they didn’t seem to actually come to a similar perception of what that broader concept would be.

    • http://jeffevans.carbonmade.com JeffEvans

      Yeah, it didn’t seem as if the works of art for each duality were having a conversation with each other, but were separate and stand-alone. Jackie’s art would’ve been more cohesive with Miles’ if it involved how women deal with male loss of control or how women lose control.

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        In the end I do have to remember to allow for the fact that WHEN YOU ARE THERE it’s pretty hard to think. I found it the strangest part…to actually just silently think in front of cameras. Between the time you get a challenge, and the time you leave for supplies is like 30 min…filled with activity, people talking, and cameras hovering around you. So now, in the comfort of my studio, I can think of what seem like brilliant responses…but who knows what I would have come up with if I was there. Which I’m glad I wasn’t! Mostly because I got what I wanted out of it…and then got out while the getting was good. (open to interpretation)

  • http://www.patrickcollier.com Patrick

    At the risk of sounding like a malcontent, the art world is a freak show inhabited by over-educated, self-important, and under-employed (if at all) social outcasts who create largely non-readily-consumed, and therefore irrelevant products. People will plop down $250 for a meal, which is gone to shit the next day; the same amount of money is disposed of on a garment that is “to die for” but one wouldn’t be caught dead in a second time; yet a drawing or photo is deemed too expensive at the same price point. This is partly why shows like Top Chef and Project Runway (What a train wreck last night! Am I right?) continue season after season. There is populist appeal.

    Not so with WANGA. Yes, it has similar elements, but this is only because it has a similar, tried-and-true structure. But even the producers seem to know that in the end, the show is nothing more than a mockery, and the only thing that will save it is to make it more base, to find a way to appeal to a more general artist, who, while perhaps not knowing much about art, certainly have some idea about these layabouts who rationalize and otherwise attempt to justify their lazy existence.

    I support this observation with the little segment inserted this week into a commercial break. Mark begins by calling artists out on their verbosity (their bullshit), which is then followed by clips of the contestants using big words and abstract concepts, all taken out of context. Nicole’s “planned obsolescence” shows just how desperate they were to make this point. (After all, it is an anti-capitalist sentiment.) They should have inserted Judith’s eye roll as the capper. And the suspicions/opinions of ‘regular folk’ are reinforced.

    I wonder what structure this show might have had back when Bravo didn’t have commercials.

    • Gina B

      Wait! Hold the phone!! Are you saying Bravo is dumbing down the process of making art in the editing room, to appeal to a mass audience and make money?!!

      Sheesh, no shit, Sherlock! Even I, as an ‘over-educated, self-important, and under-employed (if at all) social outcast who creates largely non-readily-consumed, and therefore irrelevant products’ got that! Like, no duh!

      What do you do, may I ask? Something that requires you to be an under-educated, insecure, over-employed social butterfly who creates easily consumed products? How nice!

      • Sarae

        LOL, Gina.

        • http://www.patrickcollier.com Patrick

          I guess I need to work on my sarcastic tone in writing.

  • http://www.patrickcollier.com Patrick

    At the risk of sounding like a malcontent, the art world is a freak show inhabited by over-educated, self-important, and under-employed (if at all) social outcasts who create largely non-readily-consumed, and therefore irrelevant products. People will plop down $250 for a meal, which is gone to shit the next day; the same amount of money is disposed of on a garment that is “to die for” but one wouldn’t be caught dead in a second time; yet a drawing or photo is deemed too expensive at the same price point. This is partly why shows like Top Chef and Project Runway (What a train wreck last night! Am I right?) continue season after season. There is populist appeal.

    Not so with WANGA. Yes, it has similar elements, but this is only because it has a similar, tried-and-true structure. But even the producers seem to know that in the end, the show is nothing more than a mockery, and the only thing that will save it is to make it more base, to find a way to appeal to a more general artist, who, while perhaps not knowing much about art, certainly have some idea about these layabouts who rationalize and otherwise attempt to justify their lazy existence.

    I support this observation with the little segment inserted this week into a commercial break. Mark begins by calling artists out on their verbosity (their bullshit), which is then followed by clips of the contestants using big words and abstract concepts, all taken out of context. Nicole’s “planned obsolescence” shows just how desperate they were to make this point. (After all, it is an anti-capitalist sentiment.) They should have inserted Judith’s eye roll as the capper. And the suspicions/opinions of ‘regular folk’ are reinforced.

    I wonder what structure this show might have had back when Bravo didn’t have commercials.

    • Gina B

      Wait! Hold the phone!! Are you saying Bravo is dumbing down the process of making art in the editing room, to appeal to a mass audience and make money?!!

      Sheesh, no shit, Sherlock! Even I, as an ‘over-educated, self-important, and under-employed (if at all) social outcast who creates largely non-readily-consumed, and therefore irrelevant products’ got that! Like, no duh!

      What do you do, may I ask? Something that requires you to be an under-educated, insecure, over-employed social butterfly who creates easily consumed products? How nice!

      • Sarae

        LOL, Gina.

        • http://www.patrickcollier.com Patrick

          I guess I need to work on my sarcastic tone in writing.

  • Lou

    Yep… It’s incredibly frustrating that Jaclyn has made it as far as she has. Her work is highly offensive, and not in a constructive way. The manner in which she is treated on the show (and the piece she created on the last episode) completely undermines what true feminists have fought for, and continue to fight for. I too agree, and wish, that both Miles and Jaclyn were booted off the show. Hopefully Peregrine steps it up a notch and gets the Brooklyn Museum show.

  • Lou

    Yep… It’s incredibly frustrating that Jaclyn has made it as far as she has. Her work is highly offensive, and not in a constructive way. The manner in which she is treated on the show (and the piece she created on the last episode) completely undermines what true feminists have fought for, and continue to fight for. I too agree, and wish, that both Miles and Jaclyn were booted off the show. Hopefully Peregrine steps it up a notch and gets the Brooklyn Museum show.

  • Steve

    As someone who makes reality TV I just want to mention that nearly all of Miles’ comments about manipulating Jaclyn are what we call frankenbites – which is to say pieced together from several different interviews to form a completely different thought – if you notice he is not on camera saying those things and the inflection of his voice is different between the parts. So I would take that storyline with a very large grain of salt. If anything Miles knew that Jaclyn would/did do something without her clothes on (not a huge leap — it’s is her mode of working) and crafted his interviews to appear to to be “controlling” her. Ask not whom Mile’s manipulates for he manipulates you, is, if I’m remembering correctly, how Hemingway put it.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      I rewatched the clip you’re talking about and I can see and hear everything you’ve pointed out. During the interview in which Miles says he’s trying to figure out how to get Jaclyn naked, there’s a cut to footage of them in the store as he describes the plan and the inflections are all wrong.

  • Steve

    As someone who makes reality TV I just want to mention that nearly all of Miles’ comments about manipulating Jaclyn are what we call frankenbites – which is to say pieced together from several different interviews to form a completely different thought – if you notice he is not on camera saying those things and the inflection of his voice is different between the parts. So I would take that storyline with a very large grain of salt. If anything Miles knew that Jaclyn would/did do something without her clothes on (not a huge leap — it’s is her mode of working) and crafted his interviews to appear to to be “controlling” her. Ask not whom Mile’s manipulates for he manipulates you, is, if I’m remembering correctly, how Hemingway put it.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      I rewatched the clip you’re talking about and I can see and hear everything you’ve pointed out. During the interview in which Miles says he’s trying to figure out how to get Jaclyn naked, there’s a cut to footage of them in the store as he describes the plan and the inflections are all wrong.

  • http://Www.WhiteVinylSpace.com Art Pussy

    First and foremost I want to say that I loved the tar painting Miles did. But only the tar painting. The rest of the piece was what could be expected from a collaboration “assignment.” The scent in the gallery must have been overwhelming as the tar was less than 24 hours old and yet no one mentioned this.
    Also, it is interesting to me that Bravo felt it ok to show js masturbating but blurred out the self-fellation from a previous episode.

    • http://www.digitalmediatree.com/sallymckay/ L.M.

      That’s because Jaclyn’s painting depicted an arty coffee table book version of masturbation.

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

        No, they blurred her fingers out too. It’s just less visible because they weren’t putting something over top of it.

        • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

          Did they blur out Miles’ cumshot (or “faux pas,” as Abdi called it) on his dick-tastic Micky Mouse drawing? There’s an inordinate amount of masturbation art on the WANGA (appropriately, I think); Vito Acconci would be proud.

          • patpatpatpat

            If Vito Acconci is a guest judge, I’m going to lose it. That would be so awesome.

  • http://Www.WhiteVinylSpace.com Art Pussy

    First and foremost I want to say that I loved the tar painting Miles did. But only the tar painting. The rest of the piece was what could be expected from a collaboration “assignment.” The scent in the gallery must have been overwhelming as the tar was less than 24 hours old and yet no one mentioned this.
    Also, it is interesting to me that Bravo felt it ok to show js masturbating but blurred out the self-fellation from a previous episode.

    • http://www.digitalmediatree.com/sallymckay/ L.M.

      That’s because Jaclyn’s painting depicted an arty coffee table book version of masturbation.

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

        No, they blurred her fingers out too. It’s just less visible because they weren’t putting something over top of it.

        • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

          Did they blur out Miles’ cumshot (or “faux pas,” as Abdi called it) on his dick-tastic Micky Mouse drawing? There’s an inordinate amount of masturbation art on the WANGA (appropriately, I think); Vito Acconci would be proud.

          • patpatpatpat

            If Vito Acconci is a guest judge, I’m going to lose it. That would be so awesome.

  • tricia

    During the critique, when Peregine glanced askew and sneered that “Mark could have given her more” I saw that not only did she not want to take responsibility for her weak piece but she wanted to let Mark take the blame, at that moment I lost interest in her winning. Conniving, manipulation and deceit ala “Survivor” and Miles Mendenhall, put a bad name to good art, were there any. While the judges apparently don’t see the goings on behind the scenes the public does and its hard to separate the art work from the artist behavior and attitude and one hopes that decency prevails. I mean, really, its a matter of luck and one good piece, even Abdi stands a chance. And since Abdi and Nicole are the only two who havn’t tried to be underhanded my hope is that they will strike it lucky with that outrageously good idea and maybe even a strong work of art.

    Jaclyn’s piece was suppose to be about masturbating standing up but her posture read something else to me. The limp hand shrouding her pubic area and the standing posture with head thrown back looks like an act of complete surrender and maybe shame (as in a fig leaf would do, covering nudity) rather than control. This is after all what happens with an orgasm, a complete surrender of bodily function. I would be interested to know what scholarly feminists in the know would say about that. It seems that the meekness of it in contrast to say a powerful stance and confrontational stare, in the nude or not might have been more effective if trying to show feminine “control”

    • Stead

      I think Abdi seems like I really nice guy, but I don’t think he should win. His skill sets, obliviousness to the art word, and apparent inability to generate a complex concept make him more suited for America’s Next Pixar Employee or Top Illustrator. I’m not trying to be a dick here and I know a lot of talk has been flying around these comments about the elitism of the art world, but there is a difference. I dunno. I know it makes me sound like a terd, but Abdi makes art not Art. He was trying this episode, but it was still weak. If he’s serious he should get into the discourse. Otherwise he should shop himself to dreamworks or marvel comics.

      The best part of this show is the AFC reviews and comments.

      • German S.

        Out of curiosity, what would be the difference between Abdi’s art & Ryan’s art? I ask because they both like to focus on figurative subject matter. From what I’ve seen from his personal site, Abdi is capable of some strong, sensitive stuff (though there was a lack of focus in the collection of work).

        Also, Phil Hale, a former Marvel Comics cover artist, was commissioned to paint the portrait of Tony Blair back in ’08. It was highly regarded and a little controversial. Is he or his work to be considered any less because of his work in the past?

  • http://www.patriciaanders/com tricia

    During the critique, when Peregine glanced askew and sneered that “Mark could have given her more” I saw that not only did she not want to take responsibility for her weak piece but she wanted to let Mark take the blame, at that moment I lost interest in her winning. Conniving, manipulation and deceit ala “Survivor” and Miles Mendenhall, put a bad name to good art, were there any. While the judges apparently don’t see the goings on behind the scenes the public does and its hard to separate the art work from the artist behavior and attitude and one hopes that decency prevails. I mean, really, its a matter of luck and one good piece, even Abdi stands a chance. And since Abdi and Nicole are the only two who havn’t tried to be underhanded my hope is that they will strike it lucky with that outrageously good idea and maybe even a strong work of art.

    Jaclyn’s piece was suppose to be about masturbating standing up but her posture read something else to me. The limp hand shrouding her pubic area and the standing posture with head thrown back looks like an act of complete surrender and maybe shame (as in a fig leaf would do, covering nudity) rather than control. This is after all what happens with an orgasm, a complete surrender of bodily function. I would be interested to know what scholarly feminists in the know would say about that. It seems that the meekness of it in contrast to say a powerful stance and confrontational stare, in the nude or not might have been more effective if trying to show feminine “control”

    • Stead

      I think Abdi seems like I really nice guy, but I don’t think he should win. His skill sets, obliviousness to the art word, and apparent inability to generate a complex concept make him more suited for America’s Next Pixar Employee or Top Illustrator. I’m not trying to be a dick here and I know a lot of talk has been flying around these comments about the elitism of the art world, but there is a difference. I dunno. I know it makes me sound like a terd, but Abdi makes art not Art. He was trying this episode, but it was still weak. If he’s serious he should get into the discourse. Otherwise he should shop himself to dreamworks or marvel comics.

      The best part of this show is the AFC reviews and comments.

      • German S.

        Out of curiosity, what would be the difference between Abdi’s art & Ryan’s art? I ask because they both like to focus on figurative subject matter. From what I’ve seen from his personal site, Abdi is capable of some strong, sensitive stuff (though there was a lack of focus in the collection of work).

        Also, Phil Hale, a former Marvel Comics cover artist, was commissioned to paint the portrait of Tony Blair back in ’08. It was highly regarded and a little controversial. Is he or his work to be considered any less because of his work in the past?

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  • trailer

    Joe Miller writes an interesting piece pointing out Peregrine got Mark to awkwardly pose shirtless on a reality show after she rejected his offer to pose nude. Referencing Mark’s creepy portfolio of work…this was a significant moment that transcended the completed works.

    http://www.kcconfidential.com/?p=18370

  • trailer

    Joe Miller writes an interesting piece pointing out Peregrine got Mark to awkwardly pose shirtless on a reality show after she rejected his offer to pose nude. Referencing Mark’s creepy portfolio of work…this was a significant moment that transcended the completed works.

    http://www.kcconfidential.com/?p=18370

  • trailer

    Joe Miller writes an interesting piece pointing out Peregrine got Mark to awkwardly pose shirtless on a reality show after she rejected his offer to pose nude. Referencing Mark’s creepy portfolio of work…this was a significant moment that transcended the completed works.

    http://www.kcconfidential.com/?p=18370

  • Virginia from NY

    I was gonna give Miles the win, not for his wood construction but for his performance piece on the subject: “Male.”
    Now, from the AFC blog I learn that the real winner in this case is the Bravo producer/editor who created Miles’ narrative for the episode. A man manipulating a woman! Convincing her to take off her panties! That’s one way to go.

    But I want to know why everyone accepted Miles’ explanation of the punched out wall representing the male loss of control, when in fact the breaking of furniture, walls and windows is an age-old method of controlling women. It sends a clear message: “See the damage my fist does to this wall? Just imagine the damage I can do to you. Don’t piss me off.”

  • Virginia from NY

    I was gonna give Miles the win, not for his wood construction but for his performance piece on the subject: “Male.”
    Now, from the AFC blog I learn that the real winner in this case is the Bravo producer/editor who created Miles’ narrative for the episode. A man manipulating a woman! Convincing her to take off her panties! That’s one way to go.

    But I want to know why everyone accepted Miles’ explanation of the punched out wall representing the male loss of control, when in fact the breaking of furniture, walls and windows is an age-old method of controlling women. It sends a clear message: “See the damage my fist does to this wall? Just imagine the damage I can do to you. Don’t piss me off.”

  • Virginia from NY

    I was gonna give Miles the win, not for his wood construction but for his performance piece on the subject: “Male.”
    Now, from the AFC blog I learn that the real winner in this case is the Bravo producer/editor who created Miles’ narrative for the episode. A man manipulating a woman! Convincing her to take off her panties! That’s one way to go.

    But I want to know why everyone accepted Miles’ explanation of the punched out wall representing the male loss of control, when in fact the breaking of furniture, walls and windows is an age-old method of controlling women. It sends a clear message: “See the damage my fist does to this wall? Just imagine the damage I can do to you. Don’t piss me off.”

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