Work of Art Recap: The Art Pussy Escapes Elimination

by Paddy Johnson on July 15, 2010 · 228 comments

At the opening people gather around The Noumenom

I’ve come to the conclusion that I’d be much happier if Work of Art were a PBS style reality show a la Frontier House with a series of art historians and critics discussing the realities of art world as we watch the struggling members of the art world. I like drama as much as the next person, but I found Bravo’s focus on artistic disputes at the expense the art particularly disheartening in this week’s public art challenge. Too many of its participants will be left scarred by this show.

Wearer of fine furs, Yvonne Force Villareal, was the guest judge this week, though her position as President and Co-Founder of the Art Production Fund didn’t do much to illuminate the field. Aside from showing and introducing her own work she said virtually nothing during the show. Please bring Richard Phillips back.

Once the challenge was introduced, the artists were split into two teams and audiences waited to see who Erik wouldn’t get along with. The Blue team members were Miles, Peregrine, Eric and Jaclyn, and Red were Nicole, Ryan, Abdi and Mark. It took all of two seconds before we hear him talk about how nervous he is to work with Jaclyn due to past arguments, but when she attempts to mend bridges Erik very much appreciates the gesture. Erik’s hair-trigger for making a lot of ill-considered statements when he feels his own skills are either being negated or challenged is a shame, because it puts into question what often seem to be good intentions.

Like other challenges in this program, this one would have benefited from further consideration on the part of the producers. Work of Art has anarchy decide who’s going to be a team leader, and then evaluates contestants on who won what arguments. Better would have been a Project Runway type model where artists sketch proposals, the guest judge chooses the best two, and then teams executing the projects are  evaluated on their execution. At least this way, the audience can maintain the illusion that quality matters. It would have also cut out a lot of misguided discussion about how grouping the artists in teams is counter intuitive to their practice. The concept of lone artistic genius doesn’t make a lot of sense in a time when countless artists outsource manufacturing and frequently work collaboratively.

As per usual the judging in this week’s episode makes no sense whatsoever. I realize these scenes are intensely edited, but even knowing this the judges seemed to respond better to the blue team before they went back to the gallery. In the park we hear about the beeswax cedar scent of the blue team’s sleigh and watch people happily climbing into its perch. By contrast the red team hears criticism about how its piece doesn’t have the relationship to the sky the group claims, and is too new age-y.  Even when they return to Bravo’s gallery, gallerist Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn rightly complains that the work “is too close to all the bad sixties and seventies works.”

Strangely she changes her tune when discussing what they enjoyed about the work. “I really liked the poetry behind it” says Greenberg Rohatyn. Please. The dealer was undoubtedly referring to the title of the work The Noumenom, which suggests seeking out the hidden magic in the world, a place presumably located in the center of a corporate lobby somewhere. Past this, making a small object big, as they did with those stones is the oldest trick in the art book.

Meanwhile the blue team gets it. “To the Red Team’s credit, they presented a piece that was much easier to interact with” says Bill Powers, an argument about an uninviting geometric form I don’t buy for a second. Suddenly the safety of the structure was an issue and art critic Jerry Saltz notes the place in the sky the sculpture points towards, “That’s exactly the hole in the sky that the twin towers left”. Bravo makes this look like a giant mistake on their part, but that’s just ridiculous. A new building is being constructed as we speak, so why should the interpretation of that hole necessarily be negative? It could in fact be quite hopeful.

In any event, lets sum up this weeks results.

THE WINNER – The kind of art that gives art a bad name – Jerry Saltz

The Red Team's sculpture, The Noumenom. Team Leader: Nicole Nadeau with Ryan Shutz, Mark Velasquez and Abdi Farah

Based on the quality of the art alone, Nicole should have been eliminated as the Red Team’s leader.

THE LOSER

The Blue Team, Scales. Team leader Miles Mendenhall, with artists Jaclyn Santos, Erik Johnson, and Peregrine Honig

Yeah sure.

THE REAL WINNER

No one. With the exception of Honig every member of The Blue Team issued sentiments about their team members that will ensure they’ll have nightmares for years to come. The Red Team made a horrible sculpture.

THE WRONGLY ELIMINATED

Work of Art Contestant Erik Johnson

Erik Johnson deserved to go home several times over before this challenge, so while I’m not sorry to see him go, it should have been connected to his art. In a confrontation at the studio over artistic direction Johnson told Miles “I’m not your helper”. He wasn’t exaggerating his position, (even if he might have sucked it up like the rest of them) but if Erik’s full of bad ideas and poor instincts his team should have let him hang himself with his planted vine idea or snake scales. UPDATE: Jaclyn Santos writes about Bravo’s outright manipulation of cast to create a more “compelling” story line. UPDATE 2: I’m hearing accounts from Work of Art Contestants that this account is not accurate. Easier said than done when elimination is on the line, but at least that way they wouldn’t have been dealing with his hostility. “I’ve been around too long and been through too much to have some stuck up art pussy tell me life lessons” Johnson complains of Miles as he stops work all together. Even if he hadn’t gone home sulking “here ends my last ditch effort at art,” statements about pussies are likely to seal the deal. The art world is full of them and we like it that way.

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  • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

    Although I don’t mention it anywhere in this post, Simon de Pury once again reminded me that he has no business as a mentor on this show. He’s an auctioneer and has no knowledge of materials.

    • http://jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com/ Jesse P. Martin

      I beg to differ. See-moan has the gift of Magical Instant Masterpiece Recognition Eyes, and Sargents give him boners. Qualified mentor. Overqualified, really.

      • Trong the Original WIGga

        After his Renoir comment, we lovingly call him “Cum de Garcon”…..

      • Trong the Original WIGga

        After his Renoir comment, we lovingly call him “Cum de Garcon”…..

  • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

    Although I don’t mention it anywhere in this post, Simon de Pury once again reminded me that he has no business as a mentor on this show. He’s an auctioneer and has no knowledge of materials.

  • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

    Although I don’t mention it anywhere in this post, Simon de Pury once again reminded me that he has no business as a mentor on this show. He’s an auctioneer and has no knowledge of materials.

  • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

    Although I don’t mention it anywhere in this post, Simon de Pury once again reminded me that he has no business as a mentor on this show. He’s an auctioneer and has no knowledge of materials.

  • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

    Although I don’t mention it anywhere in this post, Simon de Pury once again reminded me that he has no business as a mentor on this show. He’s an auctioneer and has no knowledge of materials.

  • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

    Although I don’t mention it anywhere in this post, Simon de Pury once again reminded me that he has no business as a mentor on this show. He’s an auctioneer and has no knowledge of materials.

    • http://jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com/ Jesse P. Martin

      I beg to differ. See-moan has the gift of Magical Instant Masterpiece Recognition Eyes, and Sargents give him boners. Qualified mentor. Overqualified, really.

      • Trong the Original WIGga

        After his Renoir comment, we lovingly call him “Cum de Garcon”…..

  • S.M.

    It seemed like Erik was playing up the tortured/misunderstood artist thing almost as much as he was complaining about it,but that could be due to the editing. Even in an uncomfortable situation, no amount of editing can excuse Erik’s level of unprofessional behavior. While I did not love either of the pieces produced in the show [I would like to climb on Scale], I think it’s pretty impressive the groups finished what they did in such a short period of time. I loved how well the red team got along and the elevator troubles were entertaining.

  • S.M.

    It seemed like Erik was playing up the tortured/misunderstood artist thing almost as much as he was complaining about it,but that could be due to the editing. Even in an uncomfortable situation, no amount of editing can excuse Erik’s level of unprofessional behavior. While I did not love either of the pieces produced in the show [I would like to climb on Scale], I think it’s pretty impressive the groups finished what they did in such a short period of time. I loved how well the red team got along and the elevator troubles were entertaining.

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    I admit I enjoyed having Erik confront Miles, but for real and reality tv reasons, he lost. Miles comes out glowing. I still don’t buy Miles schtick, and I cringed at how the other “edited” elves fell into line, deluded that they were all equal. I know Erik is wound up tight, but I wouldn’t put it past Miles to strategically exploit that to his advantage.

    And I shuddered when Jerry was hammering Erik about “why”. Meant to obliterate Erik…and to get a confession…of what? Basically that he could not find it within his temperament to serve Miles. Little did he know he’d do it anyway.

    Lastly, I’m glad I wasn’t there!

    • Erik

      hey Judith, i was thinking…if i’m ever out that way and you want me to draw some whiskers on my face and pose for a picture…. it might fit in with your “pussy” pieces… :) i’d be totally up for making fun of myself… as long as i get to drool over your paintings again…

      xo-erik

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        Tell me when you come to the Art Pussy City of the world!! :-)

    • Trong Rides the G Train

      I just saw the episode, and here are my random thoughts…

      Team Miley Cyrus did not create a work of art. It was awful in every possible way…… is it a cross-section of a deformed pineapple? a cheap mad max lifeguard station? They could have at least dangled some toy planes at the crest to remind people of the World Trade Center while hypnotizing Distractingly Boring to sleep…… Jackie of course is the only NYorker among the group, so it was her fault for this lack of recognition. Her blog (Why isn’t it called “The TT Party”?) reminds me a lot of Jeanne’s blog on Bravo. Covering up their shallow selfish arses ex post facto… they should have their own show called “Boobs and Bangs Go to the Standard to Teach Feminism”… They begin and end each episode with a Milli Vanilli chest bump….

      It was great seeing Erik tell it like it was….. 90% truth and 10% fumes is better than the other way around. And on this particular episode, there once again was a lot of carbon emissions coming from the judges – clan of the cave bear edition. I would say that Erik has quite a few sublime models of unprofessional behavior to follow on the show….

      Jerry Saltz’s Vinny Barbarino impersonation of “Why, What, Where, Why, What” was kind of hilarious… They have edited him to look like the evil Emperor from Star Wars and you feel like lightning bolts will spray from his hands any second. Yvonne Force reminded me of Ming the Merciless from those old Flash Gordon films… The art world goes sci-fi, and Nicole’s pyramid will beam them back to art school. Why is the Force in charge of the Art Production Fund, and talking about the problem with good or bad public art resting with artists? It rests with a competent selection committee and curators in the first place – does anyone remember the APF’s complete waste of space, sophomoric, tepid, performance dance party several years ago at the Armory?…. Erik should have been awarded the win for refusing to go along with such an inane idea that was executed even worse…. Dissension apparently isn’t allowed in the Third Reich or contemporary art…

      And I couldn’t help but wonder what I would have like to have seen made for the challenge….. which is a living monument to Rudy Giuliani as a double life-size giant chia pet digging his own mass grave, a deep hole in the ground for the public to jump into. Shovel in one hand and peace sign raised with the other in recognition of 9/11. People could water him by taking a piss in public….

      That scene of the Three Milesketeers walking out on Erik was sad… Or maybe it was just nap time edited to look like that? Yes, we had nap time (or as the artists liked to call it… “Here Comes Simon”).

      And no, I am not angry… just missing out on all the fun.

      Shout out to my remaining roommates… Go Ryan! Go Mark!

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        OMGTRONG! :-O

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        OMGTRONG! :-O

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

        Honestly, I’d still pick a deformed sleigh over the minimal geometric forms in the park. There aren’t enough places to sit in the city and I like that that piece addressed that issue. The original tree fort had the problem that it would probably just become the place people piss and/or fuck in and would become totally unusable in no short order.

        Also, I agree that as the only New Yorker in the group, Jaclyn should have been the one held accountable for the 9-11 hole in the sky thing, if it were an actual problem.

        • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

          I understand the impulse to go there, but should anything that points towards the WTC airspace forever be expected to pay homage to its “significance,” especially if it’s just a slapdash lifeguard-stand scoop-seat (which could still be pissed/fucked in)? Also, it annoyed me tremendously that both sculptures were based on “nature” (i.e., the sky, gravel). It seems like a default subject, and hopelessly abstracting/referencing “nature” for jaded city-folk to “interact with” (Moloch!) is dumb/patronizing for at least thirty-seven reasons. Erik’s idea to spray-paint the sculpture was good, especially if they had decided to sloppily tag the shit out of it (and then Jacyln could’ve claimed credit for the idea, as an extension of “her” other idea to let people besmirch her shockin’ & saucy self-portrait).

          • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

            And Miley Cyrus’ original vision-concept for the treehouse/comfort-installation #73 was a redux of James Turrell’s “Meeting” up the road @ P.S. 1. Windows are sublime.

          • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

            Yeah, I think the whole 9-11 critique is a total none issue. As I said in the original post, it could just as well have been a symbol of hope — there’s a new building going up as we speak. There were all these expressions of shock, but you have to wonder if everyone really believed that to be the issue Saltz presents.

            I missed Nao in this challenge. I think she would have brought something a little more original to the table than just nature and interaction.

            I don’t see this as a Turrell “meeting” redux. The piece seats three people max, and doesn’t offer an unobstructed view of the sky. I’m not sure who the proper precedent would be but I’m sure there’s a public sculpture treehouse person out there.

          • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

            I guess it’s not really a “redux” ((I also don’t think that any artist should have a copyright on windows or sky), but if I’m remembering correctly, Miles’ initial description of his idea was to create a space that allowed for an unobstructed view of the sky.

            And it seemed like there were more than “expressions of shock” when Saltz slammed down his incredulous/righteous “didn’t you REALIZE?!” card. It looked as if Miles was fighting back tears – I imagine that he was more overwhelmed by the fact that he had intuited that his magnificent throne should face in the direction of such significant sky, not because he was embarrassed by the gross oversight (as implied by Saltz). I think the “revelation” just helped to further convince Miles that he’s a visionary artist. It sure convinced me.

          • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

            I guess it’s not really a “redux” ((I also don’t think that any artist should have a copyright on windows or sky), but if I’m remembering correctly, Miles’ initial description of his idea was to create a space that allowed for an unobstructed view of the sky.

            And it seemed like there were more than “expressions of shock” when Saltz slammed down his incredulous/righteous “didn’t you REALIZE?!” card. It looked as if Miles was fighting back tears – I imagine that he was more overwhelmed by the fact that he had intuited that his magnificent throne should face in the direction of such significant sky, not because he was embarrassed by the gross oversight (as implied by Saltz). I think the “revelation” just helped to further convince Miles that he’s a visionary artist. It sure convinced me.

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Just to chime in that I too wondered “what’s with the sky…and nature?” If NYC residents wanted that so much they’d leave town. Personally I like to think NYC offers plenty of good ole HUMAN nature. And the whole WTC announcement seemed forced and irrelevant, and I don’t know what those aghast expressions meant. Do people walking the streets stop to notice the direction the towers once stood unless a tourist asks? If Bravo wanted it to address that, then why not just say so instead of playing gotcha.

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Just to chime in that I too wondered “what’s with the sky…and nature?” If NYC residents wanted that so much they’d leave town. Personally I like to think NYC offers plenty of good ole HUMAN nature. And the whole WTC announcement seemed forced and irrelevant, and I don’t know what those aghast expressions meant. Do people walking the streets stop to notice the direction the towers once stood unless a tourist asks? If Bravo wanted it to address that, then why not just say so instead of playing gotcha.

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Just to chime in that I too wondered “what’s with the sky…and nature?” If NYC residents wanted that so much they’d leave town. Personally I like to think NYC offers plenty of good ole HUMAN nature. And the whole WTC announcement seemed forced and irrelevant, and I don’t know what those aghast expressions meant. Do people walking the streets stop to notice the direction the towers once stood unless a tourist asks? If Bravo wanted it to address that, then why not just say so instead of playing gotcha.

    • Trong Rides the G Train

      I just saw the episode, and here are my random thoughts…

      Team Miley Cyrus did not create a work of art. It was awful in every possible way…… is it a cross-section of a deformed pineapple? a cheap mad max lifeguard station? They could have at least dangled some toy planes at the crest to remind people of the World Trade Center while hypnotizing Distractingly Boring to sleep…… Jackie of course is the only NYorker among the group, so it was her fault for this lack of recognition. Her blog (Why isn’t it called “The TT Party”?) reminds me a lot of Jeanne’s blog on Bravo. Covering up their shallow selfish arses ex post facto… they should have their own show called “Boobs and Bangs Go to the Standard to Teach Feminism”… They begin and end each episode with a Milli Vanilli chest bump….

      It was great seeing Erik tell it like it was….. 90% truth and 10% fumes is better than the other way around. And on this particular episode, there once again was a lot of carbon emissions coming from the judges – clan of the cave bear edition. I would say that Erik has quite a few sublime models of unprofessional behavior to follow on the show….

      Jerry Saltz’s Vinny Barbarino impersonation of “Why, What, Where, Why, What” was kind of hilarious… They have edited him to look like the evil Emperor from Star Wars and you feel like lightning bolts will spray from his hands any second. Yvonne Force reminded me of Ming the Merciless from those old Flash Gordon films… The art world goes sci-fi, and Nicole’s pyramid will beam them back to art school. Why is the Force in charge of the Art Production Fund, and talking about the problem with good or bad public art resting with artists? It rests with a competent selection committee and curators in the first place – does anyone remember the APF’s complete waste of space, sophomoric, tepid, performance dance party several years ago at the Armory?…. Erik should have been awarded the win for refusing to go along with such an inane idea that was executed even worse…. Dissension apparently isn’t allowed in the Third Reich or contemporary art…

      And I couldn’t help but wonder what I would have like to have seen made for the challenge….. which is a living monument to Rudy Giuliani as a double life-size giant chia pet digging his own mass grave, a deep hole in the ground for the public to jump into. Shovel in one hand and peace sign raised with the other in recognition of 9/11. People could water him by taking a piss in public….

      That scene of the Three Milesketeers walking out on Erik was sad… Or maybe it was just nap time edited to look like that? Yes, we had nap time (or as the artists liked to call it… “Here Comes Simon”).

      And no, I am not angry… just missing out on all the fun.

      Shout out to my remaining roommates… Go Ryan! Go Mark!

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    I admit I enjoyed having Erik confront Miles, but for real and reality tv reasons, he lost. Miles comes out glowing. I still don’t buy Miles schtick, and I cringed at how the other “edited” elves fell into line, deluded that they were all equal. I know Erik is wound up tight, but I wouldn’t put it past Miles to strategically exploit that to his advantage.

    And I shuddered when Jerry was hammering Erik about “why”. Meant to obliterate Erik…and to get a confession…of what? Basically that he could not find it within his temperament to serve Miles. Little did he know he’d do it anyway.

    Lastly, I’m glad I wasn’t there!

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    I admit I enjoyed having Erik confront Miles, but for real and reality tv reasons, he lost. Miles comes out glowing. I still don’t buy Miles schtick, and I cringed at how the other “edited” elves fell into line, deluded that they were all equal. I know Erik is wound up tight, but I wouldn’t put it past Miles to strategically exploit that to his advantage.

    And I shuddered when Jerry was hammering Erik about “why”. Meant to obliterate Erik…and to get a confession…of what? Basically that he could not find it within his temperament to serve Miles. Little did he know he’d do it anyway.

    Lastly, I’m glad I wasn’t there!

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    I admit I enjoyed having Erik confront Miles, but for real and reality tv reasons, he lost. Miles comes out glowing. I still don’t buy Miles schtick, and I cringed at how the other “edited” elves fell into line, deluded that they were all equal. I know Erik is wound up tight, but I wouldn’t put it past Miles to strategically exploit that to his advantage.

    And I shuddered when Jerry was hammering Erik about “why”. Meant to obliterate Erik…and to get a confession…of what? Basically that he could not find it within his temperament to serve Miles. Little did he know he’d do it anyway.

    Lastly, I’m glad I wasn’t there!

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    I admit I enjoyed having Erik confront Miles, but for real and reality tv reasons, he lost. Miles comes out glowing. I still don’t buy Miles schtick, and I cringed at how the other “edited” elves fell into line, deluded that they were all equal. I know Erik is wound up tight, but I wouldn’t put it past Miles to strategically exploit that to his advantage.

    And I shuddered when Jerry was hammering Erik about “why”. Meant to obliterate Erik…and to get a confession…of what? Basically that he could not find it within his temperament to serve Miles. Little did he know he’d do it anyway.

    Lastly, I’m glad I wasn’t there!

  • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

    I admit I enjoyed having Erik confront Miles, but for real and reality tv reasons, he lost. Miles comes out glowing. I still don’t buy Miles schtick, and I cringed at how the other “edited” elves fell into line, deluded that they were all equal. I know Erik is wound up tight, but I wouldn’t put it past Miles to strategically exploit that to his advantage.

    And I shuddered when Jerry was hammering Erik about “why”. Meant to obliterate Erik…and to get a confession…of what? Basically that he could not find it within his temperament to serve Miles. Little did he know he’d do it anyway.

    Lastly, I’m glad I wasn’t there!

    • Erik

      hey Judith, i was thinking…if i’m ever out that way and you want me to draw some whiskers on my face and pose for a picture…. it might fit in with your “pussy” pieces… :) i’d be totally up for making fun of myself… as long as i get to drool over your paintings again…

      xo-erik

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        Tell me when you come to the Art Pussy City of the world!! :-)

    • Trong Rides the G Train

      I just saw the episode, and here are my random thoughts…

      Team Miley Cyrus did not create a work of art. It was awful in every possible way…… is it a cross-section of a deformed pineapple? a cheap mad max lifeguard station? They could have at least dangled some toy planes at the crest to remind people of the World Trade Center while hypnotizing Distractingly Boring to sleep…… Jackie of course is the only NYorker among the group, so it was her fault for this lack of recognition. Her blog (Why isn’t it called “The TT Party”?) reminds me a lot of Jeanne’s blog on Bravo. Covering up their shallow selfish arses ex post facto… they should have their own show called “Boobs and Bangs Go to the Standard to Teach Feminism”… They begin and end each episode with a Milli Vanilli chest bump….

      It was great seeing Erik tell it like it was….. 90% truth and 10% fumes is better than the other way around. And on this particular episode, there once again was a lot of carbon emissions coming from the judges – clan of the cave bear edition. I would say that Erik has quite a few sublime models of unprofessional behavior to follow on the show….

      Jerry Saltz’s Vinny Barbarino impersonation of “Why, What, Where, Why, What” was kind of hilarious… They have edited him to look like the evil Emperor from Star Wars and you feel like lightning bolts will spray from his hands any second. Yvonne Force reminded me of Ming the Merciless from those old Flash Gordon films… The art world goes sci-fi, and Nicole’s pyramid will beam them back to art school. Why is the Force in charge of the Art Production Fund, and talking about the problem with good or bad public art resting with artists? It rests with a competent selection committee and curators in the first place – does anyone remember the APF’s complete waste of space, sophomoric, tepid, performance dance party several years ago at the Armory?…. Erik should have been awarded the win for refusing to go along with such an inane idea that was executed even worse…. Dissension apparently isn’t allowed in the Third Reich or contemporary art…

      And I couldn’t help but wonder what I would have like to have seen made for the challenge….. which is a living monument to Rudy Giuliani as a double life-size giant chia pet digging his own mass grave, a deep hole in the ground for the public to jump into. Shovel in one hand and peace sign raised with the other in recognition of 9/11. People could water him by taking a piss in public….

      That scene of the Three Milesketeers walking out on Erik was sad… Or maybe it was just nap time edited to look like that? Yes, we had nap time (or as the artists liked to call it… “Here Comes Simon”).

      And no, I am not angry… just missing out on all the fun.

      Shout out to my remaining roommates… Go Ryan! Go Mark!

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        OMGTRONG! :-O

      • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

        Honestly, I’d still pick a deformed sleigh over the minimal geometric forms in the park. There aren’t enough places to sit in the city and I like that that piece addressed that issue. The original tree fort had the problem that it would probably just become the place people piss and/or fuck in and would become totally unusable in no short order.

        Also, I agree that as the only New Yorker in the group, Jaclyn should have been the one held accountable for the 9-11 hole in the sky thing, if it were an actual problem.

        • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

          I understand the impulse to go there, but should anything that points towards the WTC airspace forever be expected to pay homage to its “significance,” especially if it’s just a slapdash lifeguard-stand scoop-seat (which could still be pissed/fucked in)? Also, it annoyed me tremendously that both sculptures were based on “nature” (i.e., the sky, gravel). It seems like a default subject, and hopelessly abstracting/referencing “nature” for jaded city-folk to “interact with” (Moloch!) is dumb/patronizing for at least thirty-seven reasons. Erik’s idea to spray-paint the sculpture was good, especially if they had decided to sloppily tag the shit out of it (and then Jacyln could’ve claimed credit for the idea, as an extension of “her” other idea to let people besmirch her shockin’ & saucy self-portrait).

          • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

            And Miley Cyrus’ original vision-concept for the treehouse/comfort-installation #73 was a redux of James Turrell’s “Meeting” up the road @ P.S. 1. Windows are sublime.

          • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

            Yeah, I think the whole 9-11 critique is a total none issue. As I said in the original post, it could just as well have been a symbol of hope — there’s a new building going up as we speak. There were all these expressions of shock, but you have to wonder if everyone really believed that to be the issue Saltz presents.

            I missed Nao in this challenge. I think she would have brought something a little more original to the table than just nature and interaction.

            I don’t see this as a Turrell “meeting” redux. The piece seats three people max, and doesn’t offer an unobstructed view of the sky. I’m not sure who the proper precedent would be but I’m sure there’s a public sculpture treehouse person out there.

          • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

            I guess it’s not really a “redux” ((I also don’t think that any artist should have a copyright on windows or sky), but if I’m remembering correctly, Miles’ initial description of his idea was to create a space that allowed for an unobstructed view of the sky.

            And it seemed like there were more than “expressions of shock” when Saltz slammed down his incredulous/righteous “didn’t you REALIZE?!” card. It looked as if Miles was fighting back tears – I imagine that he was more overwhelmed by the fact that he had intuited that his magnificent throne should face in the direction of such significant sky, not because he was embarrassed by the gross oversight (as implied by Saltz). I think the “revelation” just helped to further convince Miles that he’s a visionary artist. It sure convinced me.

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Just to chime in that I too wondered “what’s with the sky…and nature?” If NYC residents wanted that so much they’d leave town. Personally I like to think NYC offers plenty of good ole HUMAN nature. And the whole WTC announcement seemed forced and irrelevant, and I don’t know what those aghast expressions meant. Do people walking the streets stop to notice the direction the towers once stood unless a tourist asks? If Bravo wanted it to address that, then why not just say so instead of playing gotcha.

  • http://www.saulchernick.com Saul

    Erik dissing Miles and his work was hilarious and on point (though socially unproductive)-unquestionably the best moment of this episode.

    In an aside: When did the judges decide that physically interacting with the work was so important? And why did these teams each decide to make wacky lawn furniture. If the end product amounts to “good art”, then simply looking at it should suffice.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      Yeah, I thought the importance of physical interaction was a little overblown too. I have the sense it was pushed because a bunch of boring painted wood shapes aren’t enough to look at.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      Yeah, I thought the importance of physical interaction was a little overblown too. I have the sense it was pushed because a bunch of boring painted wood shapes aren’t enough to look at.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      Yeah, I thought the importance of physical interaction was a little overblown too. I have the sense it was pushed because a bunch of boring painted wood shapes aren’t enough to look at.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      Yeah, I thought the importance of physical interaction was a little overblown too. I have the sense it was pushed because a bunch of boring painted wood shapes aren’t enough to look at.

  • http://www.saulchernick.com Saul

    Erik dissing Miles and his work was hilarious and on point (though socially unproductive)-unquestionably the best moment of this episode.

    In an aside: When did the judges decide that physically interacting with the work was so important? And why did these teams each decide to make wacky lawn furniture. If the end product amounts to “good art”, then simply looking at it should suffice.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      Yeah, I thought the importance of physical interaction was a little overblown too. I have the sense it was pushed because a bunch of boring painted wood shapes aren’t enough to look at.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

    • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

      A reality show with Pollock & van Gogh would be a highly entertaining booze/solvent-drinking slug-fest. And America would learn what “impasto” is. William Blake would be shamed for misspelling “fellatio” and roundly criticized for his gratuitous naked-bathroom-photo-shoots.

      The sheer amount of gays involved in the fashion & art industries are probably to blame for their dive-bombing into utter vacuity. Actually, given that WANGA is a searing lens into the soul of the art world, why isn’t it absolutely *awash* with the gays? Fashion reality shows at least have that formula down pat.

      I’m also curious how many people heard “male gaze” as “male gays.” I’m also convinced that a lot of viewers are assuming that most of the contestants and judges are gaze, too.

      • Gina B

        If you’re a Pollock, then people may put up with your BS, Erik is no Pollock. He totally played it wrong, (he needed to study more reality t.v. before he came on) He should have played ball and then if they lost, they would have had to send Miles home. Although, the judges have got to be thinking who’s made consistent work over the course of the show, I mean this person’s gotta be (consistent) on some minimum level, since they’re having a show at an actual museum….

        • Adam

          I feel pretty bad for the Bklyn Museum for having agreed to these ridiculous stipulations by BRAVO, which probably came with a huge paycheck. This might just be the weakest museum show ever.

        • Adam

          I feel pretty bad for the Bklyn Museum for having agreed to these ridiculous stipulations by BRAVO, which probably came with a huge paycheck. This might just be the weakest museum show ever.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

  • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

    Erik is pure Stuckist and if he’s not politically correct, at least he has passion. I wonder how a Jackson Pollock or William Blake or even Van Gogh would have faired on this ridiculous show.

    This show is a reminder that the artworld is no longer one tiny bit more thoughtful or substantive than the fashion industry. That’s not news… but I sure hate realizing it again. The only artists recognized anymore are the ones who feverishly chase the moving carrot you guys dangle before them.

    • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

      A reality show with Pollock & van Gogh would be a highly entertaining booze/solvent-drinking slug-fest. And America would learn what “impasto” is. William Blake would be shamed for misspelling “fellatio” and roundly criticized for his gratuitous naked-bathroom-photo-shoots.

      The sheer amount of gays involved in the fashion & art industries are probably to blame for their dive-bombing into utter vacuity. Actually, given that WANGA is a searing lens into the soul of the art world, why isn’t it absolutely *awash* with the gays? Fashion reality shows at least have that formula down pat.

      I’m also curious how many people heard “male gaze” as “male gays.” I’m also convinced that a lot of viewers are assuming that most of the contestants and judges are gaze, too.

      • Gina B

        If you’re a Pollock, then people may put up with your BS, Erik is no Pollock. He totally played it wrong, (he needed to study more reality t.v. before he came on) He should have played ball and then if they lost, they would have had to send Miles home. Although, the judges have got to be thinking who’s made consistent work over the course of the show, I mean this person’s gotta be (consistent) on some minimum level, since they’re having a show at an actual museum….

        • Adam

          I feel pretty bad for the Bklyn Museum for having agreed to these ridiculous stipulations by BRAVO, which probably came with a huge paycheck. This might just be the weakest museum show ever.

  • Ursula

    I totally agree about a PBS reboot. My biggest problem: either the challenges are real, or shouldn’t exist. On PR, if a contestant, regardless of talent, turns in a red carpet gown for a men’s sportswear challenge, there would be consequences. Here, people (well, some people) can turn in works with only the most distant relationship to the challenge, with no consequences. It’s not hard imagining Miles with a stash of pre-conceived stuff, and when a challenge gets to challenging: whopsie! time to nap and art up the FauxCD. It should be hard to imagine, if the experiment has any integrity.

    Half-assing those reality tv show constructs makes them pointless. They may be negative for reasons A, B, and C, but it feels like someone behind the curtain’s running damage control on their cool, not making a statement on television.

  • Ursula

    I totally agree about a PBS reboot. My biggest problem: either the challenges are real, or shouldn’t exist. On PR, if a contestant, regardless of talent, turns in a red carpet gown for a men’s sportswear challenge, there would be consequences. Here, people (well, some people) can turn in works with only the most distant relationship to the challenge, with no consequences. It’s not hard imagining Miles with a stash of pre-conceived stuff, and when a challenge gets to challenging: whopsie! time to nap and art up the FauxCD. It should be hard to imagine, if the experiment has any integrity.

    Half-assing those reality tv show constructs makes them pointless. They may be negative for reasons A, B, and C, but it feels like someone behind the curtain’s running damage control on their cool, not making a statement on television.

  • Ursula

    I totally agree about a PBS reboot. My biggest problem: either the challenges are real, or shouldn’t exist. On PR, if a contestant, regardless of talent, turns in a red carpet gown for a men’s sportswear challenge, there would be consequences. Here, people (well, some people) can turn in works with only the most distant relationship to the challenge, with no consequences. It’s not hard imagining Miles with a stash of pre-conceived stuff, and when a challenge gets to challenging: whopsie! time to nap and art up the FauxCD. It should be hard to imagine, if the experiment has any integrity.

    Half-assing those reality tv show constructs makes them pointless. They may be negative for reasons A, B, and C, but it feels like someone behind the curtain’s running damage control on their cool, not making a statement on television.

  • Ursula

    I totally agree about a PBS reboot. My biggest problem: either the challenges are real, or shouldn’t exist. On PR, if a contestant, regardless of talent, turns in a red carpet gown for a men’s sportswear challenge, there would be consequences. Here, people (well, some people) can turn in works with only the most distant relationship to the challenge, with no consequences. It’s not hard imagining Miles with a stash of pre-conceived stuff, and when a challenge gets to challenging: whopsie! time to nap and art up the FauxCD. It should be hard to imagine, if the experiment has any integrity.

    Half-assing those reality tv show constructs makes them pointless. They may be negative for reasons A, B, and C, but it feels like someone behind the curtain’s running damage control on their cool, not making a statement on television.

  • Ursula

    I totally agree about a PBS reboot. My biggest problem: either the challenges are real, or shouldn’t exist. On PR, if a contestant, regardless of talent, turns in a red carpet gown for a men’s sportswear challenge, there would be consequences. Here, people (well, some people) can turn in works with only the most distant relationship to the challenge, with no consequences. It’s not hard imagining Miles with a stash of pre-conceived stuff, and when a challenge gets to challenging: whopsie! time to nap and art up the FauxCD. It should be hard to imagine, if the experiment has any integrity.

    Half-assing those reality tv show constructs makes them pointless. They may be negative for reasons A, B, and C, but it feels like someone behind the curtain’s running damage control on their cool, not making a statement on television.

  • Ursula

    I totally agree about a PBS reboot. My biggest problem: either the challenges are real, or shouldn’t exist. On PR, if a contestant, regardless of talent, turns in a red carpet gown for a men’s sportswear challenge, there would be consequences. Here, people (well, some people) can turn in works with only the most distant relationship to the challenge, with no consequences. It’s not hard imagining Miles with a stash of pre-conceived stuff, and when a challenge gets to challenging: whopsie! time to nap and art up the FauxCD. It should be hard to imagine, if the experiment has any integrity.

    Half-assing those reality tv show constructs makes them pointless. They may be negative for reasons A, B, and C, but it feels like someone behind the curtain’s running damage control on their cool, not making a statement on television.

  • lauren

    i am both an art student and a reality tv junky. loved last night’s show. miles needed to be told what for in a bad, bad way. his work is decent but in the end it’s not that much better or worse than some of the other “top artists” on the show. he’s just lucky enough to have a style that lends itself to woa’s work environment. afc got it right in evaluating the work but any reality show addict should know that woa will suffer without erik. he was jumpy, insecure, had a big mouth, and a brain injury. his problems with self editing were tv gold. for what it’s worth he was right about the metal sheeting in a big way. i hope he doesn’t give up. he has a long way to go but if he can calm the fuck down and take advice of some kind from someone he could have some potential. that’s the problem with this show. it ignores our materials fetishes and work styles and almost demands crap. wouldn’t it be better to get together a group of students to work under a group of established artist over a summer? twice the catfights and ten times the decent work.

  • lauren

    i am both an art student and a reality tv junky. loved last night’s show. miles needed to be told what for in a bad, bad way. his work is decent but in the end it’s not that much better or worse than some of the other “top artists” on the show. he’s just lucky enough to have a style that lends itself to woa’s work environment. afc got it right in evaluating the work but any reality show addict should know that woa will suffer without erik. he was jumpy, insecure, had a big mouth, and a brain injury. his problems with self editing were tv gold. for what it’s worth he was right about the metal sheeting in a big way. i hope he doesn’t give up. he has a long way to go but if he can calm the fuck down and take advice of some kind from someone he could have some potential. that’s the problem with this show. it ignores our materials fetishes and work styles and almost demands crap. wouldn’t it be better to get together a group of students to work under a group of established artist over a summer? twice the catfights and ten times the decent work.

  • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

    @Laniru: Who are “you guys?”

    • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

      Sorry. Not a well written post.
      “you guys” = v.i.ps who sit around and make up what is relevant and what isn’t. I assume several people in the “you guys” club are involved in or follow this blog.

  • http://www.jessepatrickmartin.blogspot.com Jesse P. Martin

    @Laniru: Who are “you guys?”

    • http://Laniru.deviantart.com Laniru

      Sorry. Not a well written post.
      “you guys” = v.i.ps who sit around and make up what is relevant and what isn’t. I assume several people in the “you guys” club are involved in or follow this blog.

  • Ladeda

    Erik needs to strike while the iron is hot and get his “art pussy” brand out there. It would be no different than all those Real Housewives working the Bravo.
    And now that I think of it the possibilities are endless.
    Miles could come out with sleeping masks.
    Peregrine might sell those helmets she wears.
    Jaclyn could sell mirrors where you see her reflection not your own.
    Ryan could sell those orangey sunglasses that he painted on himself during the car challenge or prepackaged drag ensembles.
    Jamie Lynn seems like a natural to produce whimsical car air fresheners.
    Judith would just need to mediate a cut of the pussy profits with Erik because she was working the pussy long before Erik.
    Abdi might create a comic book series starring a jumpsuit wearing version of himself.
    Mark may not like it but there is a pile of money to be made in hotel art.
    John created a pineapple head and Sponge Bob lives in a pineapple which convinces me that he needs to move to California.
    Trong = wigs.
    Miss Nicole needs a spin off show “Nic and the Bros” where they traverse the country in a camper and periodically stop to make site specific gravel inspired geometric things.

    • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

      Interesting way to break it all down. I’d like to see more clever categorical ramifications as I self reflect.

    • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

      Interesting way to break it all down. I’d like to see more clever categorical ramifications as I self reflect.

  • Ladeda

    Erik needs to strike while the iron is hot and get his “art pussy” brand out there. It would be no different than all those Real Housewives working the Bravo.
    And now that I think of it the possibilities are endless.
    Miles could come out with sleeping masks.
    Peregrine might sell those helmets she wears.
    Jaclyn could sell mirrors where you see her reflection not your own.
    Ryan could sell those orangey sunglasses that he painted on himself during the car challenge or prepackaged drag ensembles.
    Jamie Lynn seems like a natural to produce whimsical car air fresheners.
    Judith would just need to mediate a cut of the pussy profits with Erik because she was working the pussy long before Erik.
    Abdi might create a comic book series starring a jumpsuit wearing version of himself.
    Mark may not like it but there is a pile of money to be made in hotel art.
    John created a pineapple head and Sponge Bob lives in a pineapple which convinces me that he needs to move to California.
    Trong = wigs.
    Miss Nicole needs a spin off show “Nic and the Bros” where they traverse the country in a camper and periodically stop to make site specific gravel inspired geometric things.

    • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

      Interesting way to break it all down. I’d like to see more clever categorical ramifications as I self reflect.

  • Ladeda

    Nao needs her own uncensored prime time show on a different network.

    • Eleggua2000

      Someone should just give Nao her own channel. A show is not enough to conatain her.

    • Eleggua2000

      Someone should just give Nao her own channel. A show is not enough to conatain her.

  • Ladeda

    Nao needs her own uncensored prime time show on a different network.

    • Eleggua2000

      Someone should just give Nao her own channel. A show is not enough to conatain her.

  • http://www.patrickcollier.com Patrick

    As is our habit, my wife and I discussed the show afterward. We were both struck by the “art pussy” comment. She asked me if I knew any art pussies, and I’ll admit, I could quickly come up with a few, mostly people I knew in school. But then I thought about it some more and determined that to some degree, we’re all art pussies. Except for Tony Fitzpatrick. Just in case he reads your blog, not Tony.

  • http://www.patrickcollier.com Patrick

    As is our habit, my wife and I discussed the show afterward. We were both struck by the “art pussy” comment. She asked me if I knew any art pussies, and I’ll admit, I could quickly come up with a few, mostly people I knew in school. But then I thought about it some more and determined that to some degree, we’re all art pussies. Except for Tony Fitzpatrick. Just in case he reads your blog, not Tony.

  • maaaaaaango

    “I’ve come to the conclusion that I’d be much happier if Work of Art were a PBS style reality show a la Frontier House with a series of art historians and critics discussing the realities of art world as we watch the struggling members of the art world”

    i love you paddy.

    done and done.

  • maaaaaaango

    “I’ve come to the conclusion that I’d be much happier if Work of Art were a PBS style reality show a la Frontier House with a series of art historians and critics discussing the realities of art world as we watch the struggling members of the art world”

    i love you paddy.

    done and done.

  • maaaaaaaango

    i’ve had a few, but what i meant to say was that this show is a dirty joke, on everyone. jerry saltz isn’t gonna get a daytime show like tyra.

    • Tanne

      I beg to differ. Saltz could be real competition for Maury in the “who’s my baby daddy?” corner of daytime programming.
      “WHAT? WHO? WHY?”
      I’d think twice about having unprotected sex with him glaring out of my tv.

  • maaaaaaaango

    i’ve had a few, but what i meant to say was that this show is a dirty joke, on everyone. jerry saltz isn’t gonna get a daytime show like tyra.

    • Tanne

      I beg to differ. Saltz could be real competition for Maury in the “who’s my baby daddy?” corner of daytime programming.
      “WHAT? WHO? WHY?”
      I’d think twice about having unprotected sex with him glaring out of my tv.

  • perfectliar

    I think the reason you don’t fully enjoy this show is because you think it’s about art. But it’s not.

    It’s about artists and the drama they create. No one wants to watch a show on Bravo where there’s no ridiculous situations, no stakes, no fighting, no tension, no crazy people with out-of-control personalities. This is a television show. It exists for entertainment purposes. There’s nothing entertaining (to the vast majority of TV viewers) about “art historians and critics discussing the realities of art world.”

  • perfectliar

    I think the reason you don’t fully enjoy this show is because you think it’s about art. But it’s not.

    It’s about artists and the drama they create. No one wants to watch a show on Bravo where there’s no ridiculous situations, no stakes, no fighting, no tension, no crazy people with out-of-control personalities. This is a television show. It exists for entertainment purposes. There’s nothing entertaining (to the vast majority of TV viewers) about “art historians and critics discussing the realities of art world.”

  • http://cwroelle.com CW

    I can’t help but think (and I could be totally wrong and just cynical on this) that the red team saw the train wreck that was the blue team and decided to use that to their advantage and amp up themselves getting along so well, it was just a little to saccharin to pass the smell test (or taste test?)

  • http://cwroelle.com CW

    I can’t help but think (and I could be totally wrong and just cynical on this) that the red team saw the train wreck that was the blue team and decided to use that to their advantage and amp up themselves getting along so well, it was just a little to saccharin to pass the smell test (or taste test?)

  • pesharpe

    If you read Jaclyn Santos’ blog (www.jaclynsantos.com) you may find some very interesting points to consider relative to last night’s show. She talks pretty freely about the slanting of the show both in editing and through direction. She also takes credit for the design of the scoopy princess beach chair, for what it’s worth. It certainly doesn’t resemble Mile’s original sketch.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      I’m surprised Bravo hasn’t forced Jaclyn to take that post down. I’ve tried to stick mostly to talking about the art, because it’s harder for Bravo to manipulate that. Stories they can. Reading Jaclyn’s post makes me regret having said anything about the dispute, particularly because I had wondered when I wrote the piece how the sleigh design came to be. You just don’t know what the reality is on these shows because the producers aren’t about letting the narrative construct itself.

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        I’m trying to think about WHY we watch what we know is edited and then try to analyze if and where we are being tricked, or misled from what actually happened. I admit I want to see the real thing, as though I was a fly on the wall. But once I accept that I’m a viewer of an edited version at home, I have to just take that seat and watch the “show”. I think the contestants, including myself, (in spite of my own urge to straighten out the story), will have to let it go also…to be “a show”. I’m thinking that the show itself, even with it’s artificialities and stupid soundbites, has generated topics for discussion….ie: artists’ intentions, “failure”, process vs results, education, commercial vs fine, and also about the roles of critics, gallerists vs the guest artists, Not new subjects, but the show served as a catalyst for tons of serious and funny conversations. Artists like to do that. It can be an exhibition…a book, whatever… but in this case it’s a reality TV show….and next time it might be an HBO Original Series. I’d LOVE THAT.

        • http://www.ellenbcutler.com lnwyd

          Judith is really right about the “show.” We all understand that “reality TV” has nothing in particular to do with reality. WANGA, moreover, reduces the idea of art and the creative process to a contest.

          It strikes me that some sort of documentary that follows the creative lives of a diverse group of artists over a period of a year or so might well be interesting. Totally fictionalized, it would be a PERFECT HBO series. Judith, have you copyrighted the idea? You should. Let’s write a pitch and send it to an agent.

          I miss your presence on the show, Judith. The perspective of a person of our age brings to such a program is now sorely lacking.

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Actually I did pitch that idea (and a few others) to the producers…but it was while I was drinking and dancing at the wrap party! Not fictionalized though (though now I do think an HBO series could be great)…I’d originally thought it would be following a few artists as they actually try to launch their art careers over a 1-2 yr period. Not with visible cameras…but more via video diaries.

            The thing is…asa a result of being on the show I have had ideas of how it could be so much better, but I want to stay in my studio and focus on my own work, not become a tv series developer!! But…If someone CALLS ME!!! :-) )

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Actually I did pitch that idea (and a few others) to the producers…but it was while I was drinking and dancing at the wrap party! Not fictionalized though (though now I do think an HBO series could be great)…I’d originally thought it would be following a few artists as they actually try to launch their art careers over a 1-2 yr period. Not with visible cameras…but more via video diaries.

            The thing is…asa a result of being on the show I have had ideas of how it could be so much better, but I want to stay in my studio and focus on my own work, not become a tv series developer!! But…If someone CALLS ME!!! :-) )

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Actually I did pitch that idea (and a few others) to the producers…but it was while I was drinking and dancing at the wrap party! Not fictionalized though (though now I do think an HBO series could be great)…I’d originally thought it would be following a few artists as they actually try to launch their art careers over a 1-2 yr period. Not with visible cameras…but more via video diaries.

            The thing is…asa a result of being on the show I have had ideas of how it could be so much better, but I want to stay in my studio and focus on my own work, not become a tv series developer!! But…If someone CALLS ME!!! :-) )

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Actually I did pitch that idea (and a few others) to the producers…but it was while I was drinking and dancing at the wrap party! Not fictionalized though (though now I do think an HBO series could be great)…I’d originally thought it would be following a few artists as they actually try to launch their art careers over a 1-2 yr period. Not with visible cameras…but more via video diaries.

            The thing is…asa a result of being on the show I have had ideas of how it could be so much better, but I want to stay in my studio and focus on my own work, not become a tv series developer!! But…If someone CALLS ME!!! :-) )

        • http://www.ellenbcutler.com lnwyd

          Judith is really right about the “show.” We all understand that “reality TV” has nothing in particular to do with reality. WANGA, moreover, reduces the idea of art and the creative process to a contest.

          It strikes me that some sort of documentary that follows the creative lives of a diverse group of artists over a period of a year or so might well be interesting. Totally fictionalized, it would be a PERFECT HBO series. Judith, have you copyrighted the idea? You should. Let’s write a pitch and send it to an agent.

          I miss your presence on the show, Judith. The perspective of a person of our age brings to such a program is now sorely lacking.

  • pesharpe

    If you read Jaclyn Santos’ blog (www.jaclynsantos.com) you may find some very interesting points to consider relative to last night’s show. She talks pretty freely about the slanting of the show both in editing and through direction. She also takes credit for the design of the scoopy princess beach chair, for what it’s worth. It certainly doesn’t resemble Mile’s original sketch.

    • http://www.artfagcity.com Art Fag City

      I’m surprised Bravo hasn’t forced Jaclyn to take that post down. I’ve tried to stick mostly to talking about the art, because it’s harder for Bravo to manipulate that. Stories they can. Reading Jaclyn’s post makes me regret having said anything about the dispute, particularly because I had wondered when I wrote the piece how the sleigh design came to be. You just don’t know what the reality is on these shows because the producers aren’t about letting the narrative construct itself.

      • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

        I’m trying to think about WHY we watch what we know is edited and then try to analyze if and where we are being tricked, or misled from what actually happened. I admit I want to see the real thing, as though I was a fly on the wall. But once I accept that I’m a viewer of an edited version at home, I have to just take that seat and watch the “show”. I think the contestants, including myself, (in spite of my own urge to straighten out the story), will have to let it go also…to be “a show”. I’m thinking that the show itself, even with it’s artificialities and stupid soundbites, has generated topics for discussion….ie: artists’ intentions, “failure”, process vs results, education, commercial vs fine, and also about the roles of critics, gallerists vs the guest artists, Not new subjects, but the show served as a catalyst for tons of serious and funny conversations. Artists like to do that. It can be an exhibition…a book, whatever… but in this case it’s a reality TV show….and next time it might be an HBO Original Series. I’d LOVE THAT.

        • http://www.ellenbcutler.com lnwyd

          Judith is really right about the “show.” We all understand that “reality TV” has nothing in particular to do with reality. WANGA, moreover, reduces the idea of art and the creative process to a contest.

          It strikes me that some sort of documentary that follows the creative lives of a diverse group of artists over a period of a year or so might well be interesting. Totally fictionalized, it would be a PERFECT HBO series. Judith, have you copyrighted the idea? You should. Let’s write a pitch and send it to an agent.

          I miss your presence on the show, Judith. The perspective of a person of our age brings to such a program is now sorely lacking.

          • http://www.judithannbraun.com Judith Braun

            Actually I did pitch that idea (and a few others) to the producers…but it was while I was drinking and dancing at the wrap party! Not fictionalized though (though now I do think an HBO series could be great)…I’d originally thought it would be following a few artists as they actually try to launch their art careers over a 1-2 yr period. Not with visible cameras…but more via video diaries.

            The thing is…asa a result of being on the show I have had ideas of how it could be so much better, but I want to stay in my studio and focus on my own work, not become a tv series developer!! But…If someone CALLS ME!!! :-) )

  • Kate L

    I make a living as an artist so this program has been really interesting to watch. I am so tired of Miles and his attitudes. He is arrogant and unkind. I think Erik is overly sensitive but is goaded by Miles’ eye rolling and cockiness. Miles hasn’t done enough or seen enough or produced enough to be so sure of himself. I am around other artists all the time and I may not agree with them but I can be courteous. Jacklyn is always doing art about being objectifed by men and yet she puts herself out as an object with her half clad “book cover” and her half clad “art that moves you.” She is cute but can she create art? The judges are making no sense at all…I am an artist but that doesn’t mean that I have to trample everyone or be a “tortured” soul…Actually some artists can just be everyday people who create art to share with other people because they are driven by an inner vision.

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