<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Art Fag City at The L Magazine: Tino Sehgal Doesn&#8217;t Make Much Progress</title> <atom:link href="http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/</link> <description>New York art news and reviews.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:20:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: JD Siazon</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-231093</link> <dc:creator>JD Siazon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:10:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-231093</guid> <description>Not only did this show piss me off I almost feel that it doesn’t deserve a review.  Analogous to Brice Marden’s retrospective at the MoMA three years ago, the Tino Sehgal show is a vacuous parody of an overly commercial and cerebral art world.  His “Kiss” piece is an awkward nod to PDA while his “Progress” piece unabashedly exploits children while virtually transforming the museum itself into a long drawn-out sales pitch for Tino Sehgal himself.  It would have been much more interesting if two handicapped people were performing the “Kiss” or maybe even dwarfs or two lesbian octogenarians.  But Sehgal chooses instead a young and attractive interracial couple which is so last century.And as for his piece “Progress” it would have been better in my opinion if old people met you at the bottom and children at the top.  But, alas, Sehgal will be Sehgal for better or for worse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only did this show piss me off I almost feel that it doesn’t deserve a review.  Analogous to Brice Marden’s retrospective at the MoMA three years ago, the Tino Sehgal show is a vacuous parody of an overly commercial and cerebral art world.  His “Kiss” piece is an awkward nod to PDA while his “Progress” piece unabashedly exploits children while virtually transforming the museum itself into a long drawn-out sales pitch for Tino Sehgal himself.  It would have been much more interesting if two handicapped people were performing the “Kiss” or maybe even dwarfs or two lesbian octogenarians.  But Sehgal chooses instead a young and attractive interracial couple which is so last century.</p><p>And as for his piece “Progress” it would have been better in my opinion if old people met you at the bottom and children at the top.  But, alas, Sehgal will be Sehgal for better or for worse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JD Siazon</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-319985</link> <dc:creator>JD Siazon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-319985</guid> <description>Not only did this show piss me off I almost feel that it doesn’t deserve a review.  Analogous to Brice Marden’s retrospective at the MoMA three years ago, the Tino Sehgal show is a vacuous parody of an overly commercial and cerebral art world.  His “Kiss” piece is an awkward nod to PDA while his “Progress” piece unabashedly exploits children while virtually transforming the museum itself into a long drawn-out sales pitch for Tino Sehgal himself.  It would have been much more interesting if two handicapped people were performing the “Kiss” or maybe even dwarfs or two lesbian octogenarians.  But Sehgal chooses instead a young and attractive interracial couple which is so last century.And as for his piece “Progress” it would have been better in my opinion if old people met you at the bottom and children at the top.  But, alas, Sehgal will be Sehgal for better or for worse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only did this show piss me off I almost feel that it doesn’t deserve a review.  Analogous to Brice Marden’s retrospective at the MoMA three years ago, the Tino Sehgal show is a vacuous parody of an overly commercial and cerebral art world.  His “Kiss” piece is an awkward nod to PDA while his “Progress” piece unabashedly exploits children while virtually transforming the museum itself into a long drawn-out sales pitch for Tino Sehgal himself.  It would have been much more interesting if two handicapped people were performing the “Kiss” or maybe even dwarfs or two lesbian octogenarians.  But Sehgal chooses instead a young and attractive interracial couple which is so last century.</p><p>And as for his piece “Progress” it would have been better in my opinion if old people met you at the bottom and children at the top.  But, alas, Sehgal will be Sehgal for better or for worse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onomato</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-227817</link> <dc:creator>onomato</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-227817</guid> <description>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?I&#039;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &quot;how are you doing today&quot; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional - &quot;what concerns you?&quot; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?The fact is, you probably don&#039;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine - or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is - hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?</p><p>I&#8217;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &#8220;how are you doing today&#8221; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional &#8211; &#8220;what concerns you?&#8221; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?</p><p>The fact is, you probably don&#8217;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine &#8211; or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is &#8211; hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onomato</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-319982</link> <dc:creator>onomato</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-319982</guid> <description>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?I&#039;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &quot;how are you doing today&quot; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional - &quot;what concerns you?&quot; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?The fact is, you probably don&#039;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine - or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is - hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?</p><p>I&#8217;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &#8220;how are you doing today&#8221; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional &#8211; &#8220;what concerns you?&#8221; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?</p><p>The fact is, you probably don&#8217;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine &#8211; or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is &#8211; hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onomato</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-319983</link> <dc:creator>onomato</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-319983</guid> <description>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?I&#039;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &quot;how are you doing today&quot; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional - &quot;what concerns you?&quot; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?The fact is, you probably don&#039;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine - or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is - hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?</p><p>I&#8217;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &#8220;how are you doing today&#8221; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional &#8211; &#8220;what concerns you?&#8221; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?</p><p>The fact is, you probably don&#8217;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine &#8211; or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is &#8211; hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onomato</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-319984</link> <dc:creator>onomato</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-319984</guid> <description>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?I&#039;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &quot;how are you doing today&quot; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional - &quot;what concerns you?&quot; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?The fact is, you probably don&#039;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine - or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is - hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people do you think replied that progress is an illusion? I suspect quite a few, though not as many as the ones who equate progress with linear growth, complexity or day hikes and ski lifts. How about physical rehabilitation to get back to where you once belonged?</p><p>I&#8217;d view this installation as more of a tableau vivant. the &#8220;how are you doing today&#8221; of the big box store has been replaced with a more philosophical greeting of the robot confessional &#8211; &#8220;what concerns you?&#8221; The question is a bit of misdirection, as if the Mona Lisa always inquired who the fine fellow behind you was, and when you turned to look, she floated herself off the wall and bit your neck. The only thing missing here is an electric cart and some red lit ground mist. Does that desire for theatrics make me anti-intellectual or a hedonist? Both?</p><p>The fact is, you probably don&#8217;t go through your day like a teenager raging against the machine &#8211; or like a college philosophy major asking what progress is &#8211; hopefully you are a coldly rational adult asking why you just paid 15 dollars to lift the curtain when you could have paid a little more for a helicopter tour to see the Statue of Liberty, which is a gift from the people of France that represents progress towards more liberty, and only disappears when viewed from a rotating stage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tom moody</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-227803</link> <dc:creator>tom moody</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-227803</guid> <description>Frankly, it is a little disappointing that you didn&#039;t flesh out your description with photos of your &quot;guides.&quot; Just kidding. This type of project could be powerful without museum sanction: tag-team free-lance docents take you up the Guggenheim ramp and ask you psychotherapeutic questions, interrupting your train of thought like torture interrogators. Over and over the gang is caught and given the bum&#039;s rush but new gang members keep sneaking back in. Eventually the museum issues a ban on all children, determining that &quot;age progression&quot; with kids at the bottom of the ramp is the gang&#039;s main methodology.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, it is a little disappointing that you didn&#8217;t flesh out your description with photos of your &#8220;guides.&#8221; Just kidding. This type of project could be powerful without museum sanction: tag-team free-lance docents take you up the Guggenheim ramp and ask you psychotherapeutic questions, interrupting your train of thought like torture interrogators. Over and over the gang is caught and given the bum&#8217;s rush but new gang members keep sneaking back in. Eventually the museum issues a ban on all children, determining that &#8220;age progression&#8221; with kids at the bottom of the ramp is the gang&#8217;s main methodology.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tom moody</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-319981</link> <dc:creator>tom moody</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-319981</guid> <description>Frankly, it is a little disappointing that you didn&#039;t flesh out your description with photos of your &quot;guides.&quot; Just kidding. This type of project could be powerful without museum sanction: tag-team free-lance docents take you up the Guggenheim ramp and ask you psychotherapeutic questions, interrupting your train of thought like torture interrogators. Over and over the gang is caught and given the bum&#039;s rush but new gang members keep sneaking back in. Eventually the museum issues a ban on all children, determining that &quot;age progression&quot; with kids at the bottom of the ramp is the gang&#039;s main methodology.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, it is a little disappointing that you didn&#8217;t flesh out your description with photos of your &#8220;guides.&#8221; Just kidding. This type of project could be powerful without museum sanction: tag-team free-lance docents take you up the Guggenheim ramp and ask you psychotherapeutic questions, interrupting your train of thought like torture interrogators. Over and over the gang is caught and given the bum&#8217;s rush but new gang members keep sneaking back in. Eventually the museum issues a ban on all children, determining that &#8220;age progression&#8221; with kids at the bottom of the ramp is the gang&#8217;s main methodology.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: matthew lusk</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-227623</link> <dc:creator>matthew lusk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:36:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-227623</guid> <description>Frankly, this is a little disappointing. I would&#039;ve thought that you would&#039;ve given this a more considered response, though I don&#039;t think your final answer is as contradictory, or as much a rebuke of the work, as you might like to think it is. It might be accidentally right on the mark.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, this is a little disappointing. I would&#8217;ve thought that you would&#8217;ve given this a more considered response, though I don&#8217;t think your final answer is as contradictory, or as much a rebuke of the work, as you might like to think it is. It might be accidentally right on the mark.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: matthew lusk</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/23/art-fag-city-at-the-l-magazine-tino-sehgal-doesnt-make-much-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-319979</link> <dc:creator>matthew lusk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12684#comment-319979</guid> <description>Frankly, this is a little disappointing. I would&#039;ve thought that you would&#039;ve given this a more considered response, though I don&#039;t think your final answer is as contradictory, or as much a rebuke of the work, as you might like to think it is. It might be accidentally right on the mark.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, this is a little disappointing. I would&#8217;ve thought that you would&#8217;ve given this a more considered response, though I don&#8217;t think your final answer is as contradictory, or as much a rebuke of the work, as you might like to think it is. It might be accidentally right on the mark.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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