Comments on: Who’s Changing The New York Art Fair Landscape http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/ New York art news and reviews. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: onomatohttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-226680 onomato Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:38:23 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-226680 The armory has a major corporation as it's owner (It was sold) and now has a 99 year lease on the piers. yes it should be called the "Chelsea Piers Show" or something. Pretty much the usual suspects if you go to Chelsea at all - a few international acts who generally make their way through Chelsea as well. If there is blue chip art lets call this middle chip. Safe.What needs to happen is for the smaller fairs to become financially viable, and also to brand themselves by being what they say they are.INDEPENDENT is a nice idea, but there is more to being independent than saying you are. Dee looks pretty established from where I sit in Brooklyn, where galleries have lower overheads and take more risks, even if they fail due to lack of curatorial skill, or a host of other contingencies. I know, risking your rent money isn't like risking an art fair booth, but it's a sliding scale thing isn't it? For some people a lottery ticket is a big deal.But there is more to risk than money.The gallerist who complained she wanted her money back might be justified in feeling irate about lost or damaged art (that's also why you insure the work) but does she really think a shuttle bus is the root of her sales problem? High end collectors don't ride shuttle busses do they? And also, cracking the high end market is about making connections and establishing relationships. Learning the market. Many restaurants fail in their first year, people expect that. Why would you expect an art fair in a down market to save you? That's heart breaking. The armory has a major corporation as it’s owner (It was sold) and now has a 99 year lease on the piers. yes it should be called the “Chelsea Piers Show” or something. Pretty much the usual suspects if you go to Chelsea at all – a few international acts who generally make their way through Chelsea as well. If there is blue chip art lets call this middle chip. Safe.

What needs to happen is for the smaller fairs to become financially viable, and also to brand themselves by being what they say they are.

INDEPENDENT is a nice idea, but there is more to being independent than saying you are. Dee looks pretty established from where I sit in Brooklyn, where galleries have lower overheads and take more risks, even if they fail due to lack of curatorial skill, or a host of other contingencies. I know, risking your rent money isn’t like risking an art fair booth, but it’s a sliding scale thing isn’t it? For some people a lottery ticket is a big deal.

But there is more to risk than money.

The gallerist who complained she wanted her money back might be justified in feeling irate about lost or damaged art (that’s also why you insure the work) but does she really think a shuttle bus is the root of her sales problem? High end collectors don’t ride shuttle busses do they? And also, cracking the high end market is about making connections and establishing relationships. Learning the market. Many restaurants fail in their first year, people expect that. Why would you expect an art fair in a down market to save you? That’s heart breaking.

]]> By: onomatohttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-319130 onomato Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:38:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-319130 The armory has a major corporation as it's owner (It was sold) and now has a 99 year lease on the piers. yes it should be called the "Chelsea Piers Show" or something. Pretty much the usual suspects if you go to Chelsea at all - a few international acts who generally make their way through Chelsea as well. If there is blue chip art lets call this middle chip. Safe.What needs to happen is for the smaller fairs to become financially viable, and also to brand themselves by being what they say they are.INDEPENDENT is a nice idea, but there is more to being independent than saying you are. Dee looks pretty established from where I sit in Brooklyn, where galleries have lower overheads and take more risks, even if they fail due to lack of curatorial skill, or a host of other contingencies. I know, risking your rent money isn't like risking an art fair booth, but it's a sliding scale thing isn't it? For some people a lottery ticket is a big deal.But there is more to risk than money.The gallerist who complained she wanted her money back might be justified in feeling irate about lost or damaged art (that's also why you insure the work) but does she really think a shuttle bus is the root of her sales problem? High end collectors don't ride shuttle busses do they? And also, cracking the high end market is about making connections and establishing relationships. Learning the market. Many restaurants fail in their first year, people expect that. Why would you expect an art fair in a down market to save you? That's heart breaking. The armory has a major corporation as it’s owner (It was sold) and now has a 99 year lease on the piers. yes it should be called the “Chelsea Piers Show” or something. Pretty much the usual suspects if you go to Chelsea at all – a few international acts who generally make their way through Chelsea as well. If there is blue chip art lets call this middle chip. Safe.

What needs to happen is for the smaller fairs to become financially viable, and also to brand themselves by being what they say they are.

INDEPENDENT is a nice idea, but there is more to being independent than saying you are. Dee looks pretty established from where I sit in Brooklyn, where galleries have lower overheads and take more risks, even if they fail due to lack of curatorial skill, or a host of other contingencies. I know, risking your rent money isn’t like risking an art fair booth, but it’s a sliding scale thing isn’t it? For some people a lottery ticket is a big deal.

But there is more to risk than money.

The gallerist who complained she wanted her money back might be justified in feeling irate about lost or damaged art (that’s also why you insure the work) but does she really think a shuttle bus is the root of her sales problem? High end collectors don’t ride shuttle busses do they? And also, cracking the high end market is about making connections and establishing relationships. Learning the market. Many restaurants fail in their first year, people expect that. Why would you expect an art fair in a down market to save you? That’s heart breaking.

]]> By: onomatohttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-319131 onomato Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:38:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-319131 The armory has a major corporation as it's owner (It was sold) and now has a 99 year lease on the piers. yes it should be called the "Chelsea Piers Show" or something. Pretty much the usual suspects if you go to Chelsea at all - a few international acts who generally make their way through Chelsea as well. If there is blue chip art lets call this middle chip. Safe.What needs to happen is for the smaller fairs to become financially viable, and also to brand themselves by being what they say they are.INDEPENDENT is a nice idea, but there is more to being independent than saying you are. Dee looks pretty established from where I sit in Brooklyn, where galleries have lower overheads and take more risks, even if they fail due to lack of curatorial skill, or a host of other contingencies. I know, risking your rent money isn't like risking an art fair booth, but it's a sliding scale thing isn't it? For some people a lottery ticket is a big deal.But there is more to risk than money.The gallerist who complained she wanted her money back might be justified in feeling irate about lost or damaged art (that's also why you insure the work) but does she really think a shuttle bus is the root of her sales problem? High end collectors don't ride shuttle busses do they? And also, cracking the high end market is about making connections and establishing relationships. Learning the market. Many restaurants fail in their first year, people expect that. Why would you expect an art fair in a down market to save you? That's heart breaking. The armory has a major corporation as it’s owner (It was sold) and now has a 99 year lease on the piers. yes it should be called the “Chelsea Piers Show” or something. Pretty much the usual suspects if you go to Chelsea at all – a few international acts who generally make their way through Chelsea as well. If there is blue chip art lets call this middle chip. Safe.

What needs to happen is for the smaller fairs to become financially viable, and also to brand themselves by being what they say they are.

INDEPENDENT is a nice idea, but there is more to being independent than saying you are. Dee looks pretty established from where I sit in Brooklyn, where galleries have lower overheads and take more risks, even if they fail due to lack of curatorial skill, or a host of other contingencies. I know, risking your rent money isn’t like risking an art fair booth, but it’s a sliding scale thing isn’t it? For some people a lottery ticket is a big deal.

But there is more to risk than money.

The gallerist who complained she wanted her money back might be justified in feeling irate about lost or damaged art (that’s also why you insure the work) but does she really think a shuttle bus is the root of her sales problem? High end collectors don’t ride shuttle busses do they? And also, cracking the high end market is about making connections and establishing relationships. Learning the market. Many restaurants fail in their first year, people expect that. Why would you expect an art fair in a down market to save you? That’s heart breaking.

]]> By: saul juddhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-223994 saul judd Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:29:40 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-223994 i think the question in the air is Who’s "Challenging" The New York Art Fair Landscape??? or better could projects like the "independent" challenge it??? any one up to answer that!!! i think the question in the air is
Who’s “Challenging” The New York Art Fair Landscape??? or better could projects like the “independent” challenge it??? any one up to answer that!!!

]]> By: saul juddhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-319128 saul judd Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:29:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-319128 i think the question in the air is Who’s "Challenging" The New York Art Fair Landscape??? or better could projects like the "independent" challenge it??? any one up to answer that!!! i think the question in the air is
Who’s “Challenging” The New York Art Fair Landscape??? or better could projects like the “independent” challenge it??? any one up to answer that!!!

]]> By: saul juddhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-319129 saul judd Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:29:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-319129 i think the question in the air is Who’s "Challenging" The New York Art Fair Landscape??? or better could projects like the "independent" challenge it??? any one up to answer that!!! i think the question in the air is
Who’s “Challenging” The New York Art Fair Landscape??? or better could projects like the “independent” challenge it??? any one up to answer that!!!

]]> By: Isla Leaver-Yaphttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-222367 Isla Leaver-Yap Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:23:37 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-222367 Cathedral of Shit also pitches in with a UK perspective: http://cathedralofshit.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/independence-day/ Cathedral of Shit also pitches in with a UK perspective:
http://cathedralofshit.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/independence-day/

]]> By: Isla Leaver-Yaphttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-319127 Isla Leaver-Yap Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:23:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-319127 Cathedral of Shit also pitches in with a UK perspective: http://cathedralofshit.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/independence-day/ Cathedral of Shit also pitches in with a UK perspective:
http://cathedralofshit.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/independence-day/

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-222319 Art Fag City Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:13:40 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-222319 @Lisa. We don't disagree on this point actually. It's just an art fair. My interest in it has to do with the founders - I'd heard Flook does really great things and I like Dee as well -- and the combined effect this show might have with gallery week on the Armory. My question is whether the Armory will stay the giant it is. @Lisa. We don’t disagree on this point actually. It’s just an art fair. My interest in it has to do with the founders – I’d heard Flook does really great things and I like Dee as well — and the combined effect this show might have with gallery week on the Armory. My question is whether the Armory will stay the giant it is.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/09/changing-the-landscape-of-new-york-art-fairs/comment-page-1/#comment-319125 Art Fag City Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:13:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12518#comment-319125 @Lisa. We don't disagree on this point actually. It's just an art fair. My interest in it has to do with the founders - I'd heard Flook does really great things and I like Dee as well -- and the combined effect this show might have with gallery week on the Armory. My question is whether the Armory will stay the giant it is. @Lisa. We don’t disagree on this point actually. It’s just an art fair. My interest in it has to do with the founders – I’d heard Flook does really great things and I like Dee as well — and the combined effect this show might have with gallery week on the Armory. My question is whether the Armory will stay the giant it is.

]]>