Comments on: Meritless Degas Authenticity Debate at The AGA http://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/ New York art news and reviews. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Adam Waldron-Blainhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-221378 Adam Waldron-Blain Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:36:42 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-221378 Holy smokes Gary Arsenau totally called me on the phone! Holy smokes Gary Arsenau totally called me on the phone!

]]> By: Adam Waldron-Blainhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-319112 Adam Waldron-Blain Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:36:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-319112 Holy smokes Gary Arsenau totally called me on the phone! Holy smokes Gary Arsenau totally called me on the phone!

]]> By: William Hogarthhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-221375 William Hogarth Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:18:55 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-221375 The J.Paul Getty Museum defines forgeries as: "Reproductions of whole objects when the intention is to deceive; includes sculptures cast without the artist's permission."\n\nIf Edgar Degas never worked in bronze and the so-called "Little Dancer" in this exhibition is in bronze, how could it be identified as the "only one exhibited during his lifetime?\n\nAdditionally, is it troubling, how easily some dismiss, as "not a big deal,"the importance of the artist personal participation in the creation of their work that others want to give them credit for?\n\nSource:\nhttp://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=counterfeit&logic=AND&note=&english=N&prev_page=1&subjectid=300121305\n\nhttp://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/search_www.cgi?q=casting+in+bronze+degas&cmd=search\nDegas at the Races Teaching Program The J.Paul Getty Museum defines forgeries as: “Reproductions of whole objects when the intention is to deceive; includes sculptures cast without the artist’s permission.”\n\nIf Edgar Degas never worked in bronze and the so-called “Little Dancer” in this exhibition is in bronze, how could it be identified as the “only one exhibited during his lifetime?\n\nAdditionally, is it troubling, how easily some dismiss, as “not a big deal,”the importance of the artist personal participation in the creation of their work that others want to give them credit for?\n\nSource:\nhttp://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=counterfeit&logic=AND&note=&english=N&prev_page=1&subjectid=300121305\n\nhttp://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/search_www.cgi?q=casting+in+bronze+degas&cmd=search\nDegas at the Races Teaching Program

]]> By: William Hogarthhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-319111 William Hogarth Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:18:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-319111 The J.Paul Getty Museum defines forgeries as: "Reproductions of whole objects when the intention is to deceive; includes sculptures cast without the artist's permission."nnIf Edgar Degas never worked in bronze and the so-called "Little Dancer" in this exhibition is in bronze, how could it be identified as the "only one exhibited during his lifetime?nnAdditionally, is it troubling, how easily some dismiss, as "not a big deal,"the importance of the artist personal participation in the creation of their work that others want to give them credit for?nnSource:nhttp://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=counterfeit&logic=AND&note=&english=N&prev_page=1&subjectid=300121305nnhttp://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/search_www.cgi?q=casting+in+bronze+degas&cmd=searchnDegas at the Races Teaching Program The J.Paul Getty Museum defines forgeries as: “Reproductions of whole objects when the intention is to deceive; includes sculptures cast without the artist’s permission.”nnIf Edgar Degas never worked in bronze and the so-called “Little Dancer” in this exhibition is in bronze, how could it be identified as the “only one exhibited during his lifetime?nnAdditionally, is it troubling, how easily some dismiss, as “not a big deal,”the importance of the artist personal participation in the creation of their work that others want to give them credit for?nnSource:nhttp://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=counterfeit&logic=AND&note=&english=N&prev_page=1&subjectid=300121305nnhttp://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/search_www.cgi?q=casting+in+bronze+degas&cmd=searchnDegas at the Races Teaching Program

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-221368 Art Fag City Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:37:34 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-221368 @adam Waldron-Blain That's good to hear. The tipster was a relative who isn't inside art circles at all. This was perhaps just her perception of the debate being on the outside of it. @adam Waldron-Blain That’s good to hear. The tipster was a relative who isn’t inside art circles at all. This was perhaps just her perception of the debate being on the outside of it.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-319110 Art Fag City Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:37:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-319110 @adam Waldron-Blain That's good to hear. The tipster was a relative who isn't inside art circles at all. This was perhaps just her perception of the debate being on the outside of it. @adam Waldron-Blain That’s good to hear. The tipster was a relative who isn’t inside art circles at all. This was perhaps just her perception of the debate being on the outside of it.

]]> By: Adam Waldron-Blainhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-221242 Adam Waldron-Blain Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:16:28 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-221242 I wonder who your tipster is, because I don't know if I've noticed any city-wide discussion of this. I mean, I talked about it a little with Paul before he wrote the article, and with a few other people, but it's not exactly a great debate. It's maybe interesting to talk about, but nobody is really upset about it (other than Mr. Arseneau, of course).In any case the Degas show in question is very much about his studio process and the reproduced sculptures don't seem out of place amongst lots of life drawing sketches and iterations of the ideas leading up to his more finished pieces. The sculptures make up a large part of the show, including the one that is clearly identified as the only one exhibited during his lifetime.\n\nAlso of note: the gallery is also showing Goya's Disasters of War series, which was not published until after the artists' death. Not a big deal. I wonder who your tipster is, because I don’t know if I’ve noticed any city-wide discussion of this. I mean, I talked about it a little with Paul before he wrote the article, and with a few other people, but it’s not exactly a great debate. It’s maybe interesting to talk about, but nobody is really upset about it (other than Mr. Arseneau, of course).

In any case the Degas show in question is very much about his studio process and the reproduced sculptures don’t seem out of place amongst lots of life drawing sketches and iterations of the ideas leading up to his more finished pieces. The sculptures make up a large part of the show, including the one that is clearly identified as the only one exhibited during his lifetime.\n\nAlso of note: the gallery is also showing Goya’s Disasters of War series, which was not published until after the artists’ death. Not a big deal.

]]> By: Adam Waldron-Blainhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-319109 Adam Waldron-Blain Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:16:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-319109 I wonder who your tipster is, because I don't know if I've noticed any city-wide discussion of this. I mean, I talked about it a little with Paul before he wrote the article, and with a few other people, but it's not exactly a great debate. It's maybe interesting to talk about, but nobody is really upset about it (other than Mr. Arseneau, of course).In any case the Degas show in question is very much about his studio process and the reproduced sculptures don't seem out of place amongst lots of life drawing sketches and iterations of the ideas leading up to his more finished pieces. The sculptures make up a large part of the show, including the one that is clearly identified as the only one exhibited during his lifetime.nnAlso of note: the gallery is also showing Goya's Disasters of War series, which was not published until after the artists' death. Not a big deal. I wonder who your tipster is, because I don’t know if I’ve noticed any city-wide discussion of this. I mean, I talked about it a little with Paul before he wrote the article, and with a few other people, but it’s not exactly a great debate. It’s maybe interesting to talk about, but nobody is really upset about it (other than Mr. Arseneau, of course).

In any case the Degas show in question is very much about his studio process and the reproduced sculptures don’t seem out of place amongst lots of life drawing sketches and iterations of the ideas leading up to his more finished pieces. The sculptures make up a large part of the show, including the one that is clearly identified as the only one exhibited during his lifetime.nnAlso of note: the gallery is also showing Goya’s Disasters of War series, which was not published until after the artists’ death. Not a big deal.

]]> By: tom moodyhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-221105 tom moody Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:05:48 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-221105 Arseneau's arsenal of quotes says the head was "reattached"--not "added." Big difference but it's fun to get all excited. Arseneau’s arsenal of quotes says the head was “reattached”–not “added.” Big difference but it’s fun to get all excited.

]]> By: tom moodyhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2010/02/04/meritless-degas-authenticity-debate-at-the-aga/comment-page-1/#comment-319108 tom moody Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:05:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=12428#comment-319108 Arseneau's arsenal of quotes says the head was "reattached"--not "added." Big difference but it's fun to get all excited. Arseneau’s arsenal of quotes says the head was “reattached”–not “added.” Big difference but it’s fun to get all excited.

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