Comments on: VOLTA PRESENTS: Pizza City! http://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/ New York art news and reviews. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dianehttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-153807 Diane Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:52 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-153807 Whose laugh would matter more? I think what they are driving at with all the "grave" talk is that "we're all in this together," bound up by our inhumanity. To be critical can simply mean to be frought - to be in crisis. The suggestion that refusing to create art is somehow a solution to anything is bogus posturing born of a tired modernist obsession with endgames and the avant-garde. Whose laugh would matter more? I think what they are driving at with all the “grave” talk is that “we’re all in this together,” bound up by our inhumanity. To be critical can simply mean to be frought – to be in crisis. The suggestion that refusing to create art is somehow a solution to anything is bogus posturing born of a tired modernist obsession with endgames and the avant-garde.

]]> By: Dianehttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-316449 Diane Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-316449 Whose laugh would matter more? I think what they are driving at with all the "grave" talk is that "we're all in this together," bound up by our inhumanity. To be critical can simply mean to be frought - to be in crisis. The suggestion that refusing to create art is somehow a solution to anything is bogus posturing born of a tired modernist obsession with endgames and the avant-garde. Whose laugh would matter more? I think what they are driving at with all the “grave” talk is that “we’re all in this together,” bound up by our inhumanity. To be critical can simply mean to be frought – to be in crisis. The suggestion that refusing to create art is somehow a solution to anything is bogus posturing born of a tired modernist obsession with endgames and the avant-garde.

]]> By: Dianehttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-316450 Diane Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-316450 Whose laugh would matter more? I think what they are driving at with all the "grave" talk is that "we're all in this together," bound up by our inhumanity. To be critical can simply mean to be frought - to be in crisis. The suggestion that refusing to create art is somehow a solution to anything is bogus posturing born of a tired modernist obsession with endgames and the avant-garde. Whose laugh would matter more? I think what they are driving at with all the “grave” talk is that “we’re all in this together,” bound up by our inhumanity. To be critical can simply mean to be frought – to be in crisis. The suggestion that refusing to create art is somehow a solution to anything is bogus posturing born of a tired modernist obsession with endgames and the avant-garde.

]]> By: RJOGAhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-153755 RJOGA Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:29:30 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-153755 I guess it would also depend on what the depth of your concept of critical function is. Within the discursive vacuum of an art shopping mall what is the function of a joke? Especially a joke with a price tag? But it seems it was duly noted that the fair was probably not the best place for the work. What would be a better setting for it? Whose laugh would matter more? How does one criticize commerce with satirical symbols? Its clear that appeals to the irrational are no way out either. An art strike rather than the imaging of a "rent strike"? Who knows? But I would think that true criticism might actually lie in the creation of new concepts. A happy refusal to play. I guess it would also depend on what the depth of your concept of critical function is. Within the discursive vacuum of an art shopping mall what is the function of a joke? Especially a joke with a price tag? But it seems it was duly noted that the fair was probably not the best place for the work. What would be a better setting for it? Whose laugh would matter more? How does one criticize commerce with satirical symbols? Its clear that appeals to the irrational are no way out either. An art strike rather than the imaging of a “rent strike”? Who knows? But I would think that true criticism might actually lie in the creation of new concepts. A happy refusal to play.

]]> By: RJOGAhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-316448 RJOGA Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:29:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-316448 I guess it would also depend on what the depth of your concept of critical function is. Within the discursive vacuum of an art shopping mall what is the function of a joke? Especially a joke with a price tag? But it seems it was duly noted that the fair was probably not the best place for the work. What would be a better setting for it? Whose laugh would matter more? How does one criticize commerce with satirical symbols? Its clear that appeals to the irrational are no way out either. An art strike rather than the imaging of a "rent strike"? Who knows? But I would think that true criticism might actually lie in the creation of new concepts. A happy refusal to play. I guess it would also depend on what the depth of your concept of critical function is. Within the discursive vacuum of an art shopping mall what is the function of a joke? Especially a joke with a price tag? But it seems it was duly noted that the fair was probably not the best place for the work. What would be a better setting for it? Whose laugh would matter more? How does one criticize commerce with satirical symbols? Its clear that appeals to the irrational are no way out either. An art strike rather than the imaging of a “rent strike”? Who knows? But I would think that true criticism might actually lie in the creation of new concepts. A happy refusal to play.

]]> By: The Bruce High Quality Foundationhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-152488 The Bruce High Quality Foundation Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:02:06 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-152488 In simpler, happier times, people referred to group shows as mass graves. Fairs have certainly managed to up the ante on poor exhibition practice. That much we completely agree with. And we also don't mind you calling out what you feel to be a less than successful showing of our work (It's actually much appreciated because it helps us clarify our concerns). What we were disagreeing with (vehemently, we suppose) was your generalization that market critical work can't function in a fair. We believe it can, and that it's a goal worth striving for. That's not to say pizzatopia was doing itself justice in the fair. It probably wasn't. It's just to say that we should not accept that the fair's context eliminates the possibility of criticality. If that were the case, jokes would never work, and we'd have nothing to do down in the pit. In simpler, happier times, people referred to group shows as mass graves. Fairs have certainly managed to up the ante on poor exhibition practice. That much we completely agree with. And we also don’t mind you calling out what you feel to be a less than successful showing of our work (It’s actually much appreciated because it helps us clarify our concerns). What we were disagreeing with (vehemently, we suppose) was your generalization that market critical work can’t function in a fair. We believe it can, and that it’s a goal worth striving for. That’s not to say pizzatopia was doing itself justice in the fair. It probably wasn’t. It’s just to say that we should not accept that the fair’s context eliminates the possibility of criticality. If that were the case, jokes would never work, and we’d have nothing to do down in the pit.

]]> By: The Bruce High Quality Foundathttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-316447 The Bruce High Quality Foundat Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:02:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-316447 In simpler, happier times, people referred to group shows as mass graves. Fairs have certainly managed to up the ante on poor exhibition practice. That much we completely agree with. And we also don't mind you calling out what you feel to be a less than successful showing of our work (It's actually much appreciated because it helps us clarify our concerns). What we were disagreeing with (vehemently, we suppose) was your generalization that market critical work can't function in a fair. We believe it can, and that it's a goal worth striving for. That's not to say pizzatopia was doing itself justice in the fair. It probably wasn't. It's just to say that we should not accept that the fair's context eliminates the possibility of criticality. If that were the case, jokes would never work, and we'd have nothing to do down in the pit. In simpler, happier times, people referred to group shows as mass graves. Fairs have certainly managed to up the ante on poor exhibition practice. That much we completely agree with. And we also don’t mind you calling out what you feel to be a less than successful showing of our work (It’s actually much appreciated because it helps us clarify our concerns). What we were disagreeing with (vehemently, we suppose) was your generalization that market critical work can’t function in a fair. We believe it can, and that it’s a goal worth striving for. That’s not to say pizzatopia was doing itself justice in the fair. It probably wasn’t. It’s just to say that we should not accept that the fair’s context eliminates the possibility of criticality. If that were the case, jokes would never work, and we’d have nothing to do down in the pit.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-152420 Art Fag City Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:14:24 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-152420 Hey guys,I think your work is great, but I will remind viewers that pizzatopia was placed directly across from a hanging bread basket/knife and spoon piece, a sculpture with red enameled Buddha wearing a head set, and a pink baby head. A fair simply doesn't provide enough context for the viewer to get the piece's critical edge. Not only do I not believe I'm wrong on this point, but I don't see why you would want to argue otherwise.As for acting disingenuously, while what gets done with the sale proceeds is not evident, you make a good point. Duly noted. Hey guys,

I think your work is great, but I will remind viewers that pizzatopia was placed directly across from a hanging bread basket/knife and spoon piece, a sculpture with red enameled Buddha wearing a head set, and a pink baby head. A fair simply doesn’t provide enough context for the viewer to get the piece’s critical edge. Not only do I not believe I’m wrong on this point, but I don’t see why you would want to argue otherwise.

As for acting disingenuously, while what gets done with the sale proceeds is not evident, you make a good point. Duly noted.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-316445 Art Fag City Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:14:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-316445 Hey guys,I think your work is great, but I will remind viewers that pizzatopia was placed directly across from a hanging bread basket/knife and spoon piece, a sculpture with red enameled Buddha wearing a head set, and a pink baby head. A fair simply doesn't provide enough context for the viewer to get the piece's critical edge. Not only do I not believe I'm wrong on this point, but I don't see why you would want to argue otherwise.As for acting disingenuously, while what gets done with the sale proceeds is not evident, you make a good point. Duly noted. Hey guys,

I think your work is great, but I will remind viewers that pizzatopia was placed directly across from a hanging bread basket/knife and spoon piece, a sculpture with red enameled Buddha wearing a head set, and a pink baby head. A fair simply doesn’t provide enough context for the viewer to get the piece’s critical edge. Not only do I not believe I’m wrong on this point, but I don’t see why you would want to argue otherwise.

As for acting disingenuously, while what gets done with the sale proceeds is not evident, you make a good point. Duly noted.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2009/06/17/volta-presents-pizza-city/comment-page-1/#comment-316446 Art Fag City Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:14:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/?p=7025#comment-316446 Hey guys,I think your work is great, but I will remind viewers that pizzatopia was placed directly across from a hanging bread basket/knife and spoon piece, a sculpture with red enameled Buddha wearing a head set, and a pink baby head. A fair simply doesn't provide enough context for the viewer to get the piece's critical edge. Not only do I not believe I'm wrong on this point, but I don't see why you would want to argue otherwise.As for acting disingenuously, while what gets done with the sale proceeds is not evident, you make a good point. Duly noted. Hey guys,

I think your work is great, but I will remind viewers that pizzatopia was placed directly across from a hanging bread basket/knife and spoon piece, a sculpture with red enameled Buddha wearing a head set, and a pink baby head. A fair simply doesn’t provide enough context for the viewer to get the piece’s critical edge. Not only do I not believe I’m wrong on this point, but I don’t see why you would want to argue otherwise.

As for acting disingenuously, while what gets done with the sale proceeds is not evident, you make a good point. Duly noted.

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