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	<title>Comments on: Splashback In Need of a Little More Flashback</title>
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		<title>By: m.river</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2009/04/17/splashback-in-need-of-a-little-more-flashback/comment-page-1/#comment-145508</link>
		<dc:creator>m.river</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paddy, thanks for the review and thanks Brian for doing the show. 

It's has been fine for us that the work has stopped. It was an important moment the way we look at net art. We built a system and set it out onto the net and watch it stop. As Paddy points out in the review, it underscored that although the internet seemed to be an eternal space, it like any location, has entropy. We like to think of the work as a monument to that reality. We’re happy with the fail, as long as viewers can understand the context around the work.

We talked a good bit about rebuilding the work and in the end thought that the only honest thing to do was to make an updated version.   

In the first splash version, you can click a small link at the top of the page. It has a pop-up with a somewhat performed and fictionalized text about the work. In this text (I think I wrote both Tim and my parts with Alex writing the script section) the character m.river says

“Time is moving forward and we have lost our way. So much to say and so much to do. Make art. Look at the world. Live. We wish it could go on forever, even when we aren't there. This is not about history and looking back but the need to project ourselves forward beyond this moment. It is not to live forever but rather to imagine the future beyond ourselves.”

The text, in light of the way the art worked out, still seems right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paddy, thanks for the review and thanks Brian for doing the show. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s has been fine for us that the work has stopped. It was an important moment the way we look at net art. We built a system and set it out onto the net and watch it stop. As Paddy points out in the review, it underscored that although the internet seemed to be an eternal space, it like any location, has entropy. We like to think of the work as a monument to that reality. We’re happy with the fail, as long as viewers can understand the context around the work.</p>
<p>We talked a good bit about rebuilding the work and in the end thought that the only honest thing to do was to make an updated version.   </p>
<p>In the first splash version, you can click a small link at the top of the page. It has a pop-up with a somewhat performed and fictionalized text about the work. In this text (I think I wrote both Tim and my parts with Alex writing the script section) the character m.river says</p>
<p>“Time is moving forward and we have lost our way. So much to say and so much to do. Make art. Look at the world. Live. We wish it could go on forever, even when we aren&#8217;t there. This is not about history and looking back but the need to project ourselves forward beyond this moment. It is not to live forever but rather to imagine the future beyond ourselves.”</p>
<p>The text, in light of the way the art worked out, still seems right</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Clips 4/17/09 : Bad at Sports</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Clips 4/17/09 : Bad at Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Skip this page: a retrospective of Rhizome&#8217;s splash page internet art now on view at Rhizome.org. (Art Fag City has a typically thoughtful review of it here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] *Skip this page: a retrospective of Rhizome&#8217;s splash page internet art now on view at Rhizome.org. (Art Fag City has a typically thoughtful review of it here). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Art Fag City</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2009/04/17/splashback-in-need-of-a-little-more-flashback/comment-page-1/#comment-145502</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Fag City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brian,

I feel like tags might have helped with categorizing without making it seem too category-ish if that makes sense.  A lot of the time tags are applied in the same stream of consciousness way that these projects were conceived.  

Anyway, thanks for your feedback. It's good to have this additional background.

P.S. I updated the post to indicate that the exhibition description explains that this was not a selection, but all of the commissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian,</p>
<p>I feel like tags might have helped with categorizing without making it seem too category-ish if that makes sense.  A lot of the time tags are applied in the same stream of consciousness way that these projects were conceived.  </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for your feedback. It&#8217;s good to have this additional background.</p>
<p>P.S. I updated the post to indicate that the exhibition description explains that this was not a selection, but all of the commissions.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Droitcour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Droitcour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paddy,

Thanks for the thoughtful response. I just wanted to clarify a few things.

I can’t take credit for conceiving the exhibition. The idea had been in the air at Rhizome a few months before I started working there. I just did the research I thought that needed to be done to present the splash pages effectively.

These are all the splash pages that were commissioned, not a selection. The announcement we posted to the blog and the project description on Rhizome’s Exhibitions page both make that clear. However, I did leave that out of the statement, and will consider fixing that.

Thirty-nine is a lot of pages. I realize that the average viewer is not likely to look at every project. But “Splashback” was planned as an archive, so it was important to include everything. Any selection would have had to include members of “net.art establishment” (Olia Lialina, JODI, Heath Bunting, etc.) because their work continues to be of interest to the community, and that would have happened at the expense of ones who have already fallen through the cracks. One of the goals of “Splashback” was to bring attention to works and artists who have been forgotten.

You raised the issue of quality, and I think judgments about quality change over time. I think “Splashback” demonstrates the gap between how people understood internet art then vs. now. For instance, it’s rare to come across abstraction these days, but there are a couple of abstract pieces in “Splashback” by Robbin Murphy and Matt Hoessli that I really like, even though they look pretty simple by today’s standards.

Categorizing the pages is something I considered when I started working on “Splashback.” But after talking to Mark Tribe and Alex Galloway, I decided that such an approach would misrepresent the spontaneous nature of the commissioning process. Besides, the classification of internet art remains an unsolved problem, and it wasn’t my objective to provide a solution for it here. The neutral, alphabetical approach was the fairest one, and it also reflects the purpose of “Splashback” as a directory of works that would have otherwise been lost in the back end of Rhizome’s server. 

Ultimately, "Splashback" is more of a preservation effort than a curatorial project. Many of the pages were broken when we started working on this seriously three months ago. Nick Hasty, our director of technology, worked with several artists to update code so the splash art would function on today’s browsers. We didn’t realize that anything was wrong with MTAA’s page (I think it looks good the way it is now!), but now that you’ve pointed that out I hope we can take steps to fix it.

Again, thanks for your thoughts and giving me a chance to expand on some of the issues this exhibition raises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paddy,</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful response. I just wanted to clarify a few things.</p>
<p>I can’t take credit for conceiving the exhibition. The idea had been in the air at Rhizome a few months before I started working there. I just did the research I thought that needed to be done to present the splash pages effectively.</p>
<p>These are all the splash pages that were commissioned, not a selection. The announcement we posted to the blog and the project description on Rhizome’s Exhibitions page both make that clear. However, I did leave that out of the statement, and will consider fixing that.</p>
<p>Thirty-nine is a lot of pages. I realize that the average viewer is not likely to look at every project. But “Splashback” was planned as an archive, so it was important to include everything. Any selection would have had to include members of “net.art establishment” (Olia Lialina, JODI, Heath Bunting, etc.) because their work continues to be of interest to the community, and that would have happened at the expense of ones who have already fallen through the cracks. One of the goals of “Splashback” was to bring attention to works and artists who have been forgotten.</p>
<p>You raised the issue of quality, and I think judgments about quality change over time. I think “Splashback” demonstrates the gap between how people understood internet art then vs. now. For instance, it’s rare to come across abstraction these days, but there are a couple of abstract pieces in “Splashback” by Robbin Murphy and Matt Hoessli that I really like, even though they look pretty simple by today’s standards.</p>
<p>Categorizing the pages is something I considered when I started working on “Splashback.” But after talking to Mark Tribe and Alex Galloway, I decided that such an approach would misrepresent the spontaneous nature of the commissioning process. Besides, the classification of internet art remains an unsolved problem, and it wasn’t my objective to provide a solution for it here. The neutral, alphabetical approach was the fairest one, and it also reflects the purpose of “Splashback” as a directory of works that would have otherwise been lost in the back end of Rhizome’s server. </p>
<p>Ultimately, &#8220;Splashback&#8221; is more of a preservation effort than a curatorial project. Many of the pages were broken when we started working on this seriously three months ago. Nick Hasty, our director of technology, worked with several artists to update code so the splash art would function on today’s browsers. We didn’t realize that anything was wrong with MTAA’s page (I think it looks good the way it is now!), but now that you’ve pointed that out I hope we can take steps to fix it.</p>
<p>Again, thanks for your thoughts and giving me a chance to expand on some of the issues this exhibition raises.</p>
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