Comments on: Banksy Rats Now In NYC! http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/ New York art news and reviews. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: regina hacketthttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-108026 regina hackett Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:02:16 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-108026 Ok, I take back shallow. All of people, you're not that. Wrong word. Ding! But The idea that only a few artists can use a medium like a billboard but many hundreds of thousands can use paint on canvas without complaint stops me.What surrounds Banksy is not his fault. Reminds me of something Allen Ginsberg said about William Carlos Williams, honoring his life, "what he tried to be among the bastards out there." I honor a guy like B, despite the hype, which is not his hype, and I honor a site like Art Fag City, where art and ideas matter. Regina Hackett Ok, I take back shallow. All of people, you’re not that. Wrong word. Ding! But The idea that only a few artists can use a medium like a billboard but many hundreds of thousands can use paint on canvas without complaint stops me.

What surrounds Banksy is not his fault. Reminds me of something Allen Ginsberg said about William Carlos Williams, honoring his life, “what he tried to be among the bastards out there.” I honor a guy like B, despite the hype, which is not his hype, and I honor a site like Art Fag City, where art and ideas matter. Regina Hackett

]]> By: regina hacketthttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-314239 regina hackett Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:02:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-314239 Ok, I take back shallow. All of people, you're not that. Wrong word. Ding! But The idea that only a few artists can use a medium like a billboard but many hundreds of thousands can use paint on canvas without complaint stops me.What surrounds Banksy is not his fault. Reminds me of something Allen Ginsberg said about William Carlos Williams, honoring his life, "what he tried to be among the bastards out there." I honor a guy like B, despite the hype, which is not his hype, and I honor a site like Art Fag City, where art and ideas matter. Regina Hackett Ok, I take back shallow. All of people, you’re not that. Wrong word. Ding! But The idea that only a few artists can use a medium like a billboard but many hundreds of thousands can use paint on canvas without complaint stops me.

What surrounds Banksy is not his fault. Reminds me of something Allen Ginsberg said about William Carlos Williams, honoring his life, “what he tried to be among the bastards out there.” I honor a guy like B, despite the hype, which is not his hype, and I honor a site like Art Fag City, where art and ideas matter. Regina Hackett

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-107944 Art Fag City Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:26:33 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-107944 I suppose my pride has a stake in this, but I really am inclined to characterize that as a mistake as opposed to some kind of innate shallowness. I suppose my pride has a stake in this, but I really am inclined to characterize that as a mistake as opposed to some kind of innate shallowness.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-314238 Art Fag City Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:26:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-314238 I suppose my pride has a stake in this, but I really am inclined to characterize that as a mistake as opposed to some kind of innate shallowness. I suppose my pride has a stake in this, but I really am inclined to characterize that as a mistake as opposed to some kind of innate shallowness.

]]> By: Lewishttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-107938 Lewis Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:53:53 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-107938 I agree that the sensationalism surrounding Banksy is more than a little overdone, especially at this point in his career. I think the shallowness comes about in criticizing him for something that he isn't setting out to do (at least explicitly), which is to be groundbreaking or trail blazing. Instead, the attack should be directed at his self-defeating philosophical mission: If he seeks to question the ethics of letting someone write anything on a wall just because they have money, he'd be a lot more clever to do it without, you know, paying money. I agree that the sensationalism surrounding Banksy is more than a little overdone, especially at this point in his career. I think the shallowness comes about in criticizing him for something that he isn’t setting out to do (at least explicitly), which is to be groundbreaking or trail blazing. Instead, the attack should be directed at his self-defeating philosophical mission: If he seeks to question the ethics of letting someone write anything on a wall just because they have money, he’d be a lot more clever to do it without, you know, paying money.

]]> By: Lewishttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-314237 Lewis Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:53:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-314237 I agree that the sensationalism surrounding Banksy is more than a little overdone, especially at this point in his career. I think the shallowness comes about in criticizing him for something that he isn't setting out to do (at least explicitly), which is to be groundbreaking or trail blazing. Instead, the attack should be directed at his self-defeating philosophical mission: If he seeks to question the ethics of letting someone write anything on a wall just because they have money, he'd be a lot more clever to do it without, you know, paying money. I agree that the sensationalism surrounding Banksy is more than a little overdone, especially at this point in his career. I think the shallowness comes about in criticizing him for something that he isn’t setting out to do (at least explicitly), which is to be groundbreaking or trail blazing. Instead, the attack should be directed at his self-defeating philosophical mission: If he seeks to question the ethics of letting someone write anything on a wall just because they have money, he’d be a lot more clever to do it without, you know, paying money.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-107607 Art Fag City Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:07:07 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-107607 Regina: You're right to point out that the artist never claimed he was the first to use billboards, so the argument isn't one he suggested. My issue would be better expressed with the people who cover this artist as though he is doing something groundbreaking. Thanks for that.However, I'm not sure why changing the context should illuminate how shallow I'm being. The post illustrates misdirected hostility but I'm not sure that I could characterize that as a result of shallowness. Regina: You’re right to point out that the artist never claimed he was the first to use billboards, so the argument isn’t one he suggested. My issue would be better expressed with the people who cover this artist as though he is doing something groundbreaking. Thanks for that.

However, I’m not sure why changing the context should illuminate how shallow I’m being. The post illustrates misdirected hostility but I’m not sure that I could characterize that as a result of shallowness.

]]> By: Art Fag Cityhttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-314236 Art Fag City Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:07:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-314236 Regina: You're right to point out that the artist never claimed he was the first to use billboards, so the argument isn't one he suggested. My issue would be better expressed with the people who cover this artist as though he is doing something groundbreaking. Thanks for that.However, I'm not sure why changing the context should illuminate how shallow I'm being. The post illustrates misdirected hostility but I'm not sure that I could characterize that as a result of shallowness. Regina: You’re right to point out that the artist never claimed he was the first to use billboards, so the argument isn’t one he suggested. My issue would be better expressed with the people who cover this artist as though he is doing something groundbreaking. Thanks for that.

However, I’m not sure why changing the context should illuminate how shallow I’m being. The post illustrates misdirected hostility but I’m not sure that I could characterize that as a result of shallowness.

]]> By: regina hacketthttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-107518 regina hackett Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:40:19 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-107518 "Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use billboards as a means of critical expression?"And so what? Why the hostility? Change the context a little to see how shallow you're being:"Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use pig's hair tied to a stick to brush paint on canvas?"Of course other artists have used billboards. Did Mr. B say he was first? You've enlisted him in an argument he's not having.(I love this blog. I do. Big testy ideas deep in the art realm.)Regina “Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use billboards as a means of critical expression?”

And so what? Why the hostility? Change the context a little to see how shallow you’re being:

“Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use pig’s hair tied to a stick to brush paint on canvas?”

Of course other artists have used billboards. Did Mr. B say he was first? You’ve enlisted him in an argument he’s not having.

(I love this blog. I do. Big testy ideas deep in the art realm.)Regina

]]> By: regina hacketthttp://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/comment-page-1/#comment-314235 regina hackett Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:40:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/10/09/banksy-rats-now-in-nyc/#comment-314235 "Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use billboards as a means of critical expression?"And so what? Why the hostility? Change the context a little to see how shallow you're being:"Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use pig's hair tied to a stick to brush paint on canvas?"Of course other artists have used billboards. Did Mr. B say he was first? You've enlisted him in an argument he's not having.(I love this blog. I do. Big testy ideas deep in the art realm.)Regina “Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use billboards as a means of critical expression?”

And so what? Why the hostility? Change the context a little to see how shallow you’re being:

“Amazing! Subversive! And what a trail blazer! Who could have predicted artists would use pig’s hair tied to a stick to brush paint on canvas?”

Of course other artists have used billboards. Did Mr. B say he was first? You’ve enlisted him in an argument he’s not having.

(I love this blog. I do. Big testy ideas deep in the art realm.)Regina

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