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	<title>Comments on: Five Principles of New Media Considered and Reconsidered</title>
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	<description>As relevant as Eric Fischl. New York art news, reviews and gossip.</description>
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		<title>By: tom moody</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-99342</link>
		<dc:creator>tom moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to Item 3, kidding aside, a new media staple is art purporting to convert datum X into datum Z using automatic algorithm Y. It is hard to remember them, though.

Looking back at the 2007-2008 Rhizome commissions I found a few last year. Behold the spirit of Manovich:

--Ebay-Generator (Y) will generate songs (Z) based on the public data mined from Ebay sellers and buyers (X). 

--ShiftSpace is an Open Source platform (Y) that ... provid[es] a new public space on the web. By pressing the [Shift] + [Space] keys, a ShiftSpace user can invoke a new meta layer (Z) above any web page (X) to browse and create additional interpretations, contextualizations and interventions using various authoring tools.

--The Wrench will recast Primo Levi's The Monkey's Wrench (X) into a mobile phone text-message exchange between participants and an artificially-intelligent agent (Z). Taking place over the course of a week, the dialogue is not pre-determined; it employs Knifeandfork's nonlinear narrative software engine (Y). 

--zHarmony is an addition (Y) to Rhizome that will combine the Compatibility Matching System of online relationship services like eHarmony with Rhizome's existing database of artists (X). zHarmony will produce a unique artist profiling system that can automatically match artists with like-minded collaborators (or groups of collaborators) based on multiple points of compatibility (Z).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to Item 3, kidding aside, a new media staple is art purporting to convert datum X into datum Z using automatic algorithm Y. It is hard to remember them, though.</p>
<p>Looking back at the 2007-2008 Rhizome commissions I found a few last year. Behold the spirit of Manovich:</p>
<p>&#8211;Ebay-Generator (Y) will generate songs (Z) based on the public data mined from Ebay sellers and buyers (X). </p>
<p>&#8211;ShiftSpace is an Open Source platform (Y) that &#8230; provid[es] a new public space on the web. By pressing the [Shift] + [Space] keys, a ShiftSpace user can invoke a new meta layer (Z) above any web page (X) to browse and create additional interpretations, contextualizations and interventions using various authoring tools.</p>
<p>&#8211;The Wrench will recast Primo Levi&#8217;s The Monkey&#8217;s Wrench (X) into a mobile phone text-message exchange between participants and an artificially-intelligent agent (Z). Taking place over the course of a week, the dialogue is not pre-determined; it employs Knifeandfork&#8217;s nonlinear narrative software engine (Y). </p>
<p>&#8211;zHarmony is an addition (Y) to Rhizome that will combine the Compatibility Matching System of online relationship services like eHarmony with Rhizome&#8217;s existing database of artists (X). zHarmony will produce a unique artist profiling system that can automatically match artists with like-minded collaborators (or groups of collaborators) based on multiple points of compatibility (Z).</p>
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		<title>By: Art Fag City</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-99228</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Fag City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina: LOL!  I don't think anyone on this thread is going to be able to top that comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina: LOL!  I don&#8217;t think anyone on this thread is going to be able to top that comment!</p>
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		<title>By: regina hackett</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-99223</link>
		<dc:creator>regina hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on. Cough it up. Chris Jordan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on. Cough it up. Chris Jordan.</p>
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		<title>By: stephe?</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98952</link>
		<dc:creator>stephe?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXEC-LENT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXEC-LENT!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Frazell</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98392</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Frazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errors, or strange technical aberrations, are only useful when used for some purpose, contributing to something. This is nothing but an everyday occurance. You are making mountains out of a pimple. Just squeeze it, and its nothing but ooze.

 Really, get a job, and i guess art will be everywhere. It really is, just not in sterilized galleries that try to squeeze every ounce of life out of a dead thing. You know, pimple juice. 

Art collegia delenda est</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errors, or strange technical aberrations, are only useful when used for some purpose, contributing to something. This is nothing but an everyday occurance. You are making mountains out of a pimple. Just squeeze it, and its nothing but ooze.</p>
<p> Really, get a job, and i guess art will be everywhere. It really is, just not in sterilized galleries that try to squeeze every ounce of life out of a dead thing. You know, pimple juice. </p>
<p>Art collegia delenda est</p>
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		<title>By: 1f54tom moody</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98382</link>
		<dc:creator>1f54tom moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone agrees with me that fuzzy gifs on a Mac are bad (it happens when you try to enlarge them using HTML). Sorry to belabor my own obscure jokes, I just want it clear that to the extent I have an opinion on Manovich I'm against him. He is just too rational. I look to art more for subjectivity and monkey wrenching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone agrees with me that fuzzy gifs on a Mac are bad (it happens when you try to enlarge them using HTML). Sorry to belabor my own obscure jokes, I just want it clear that to the extent I have an opinion on Manovich I&#8217;m against him. He is just too rational. I look to art more for subjectivity and monkey wrenching.</p>
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		<title>By: salvo cheque</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98378</link>
		<dc:creator>salvo cheque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For #3:
&lt;a href="http://www.raaf.org/projects.php?pcat=2&#38;proj=4" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sabrina Raaf?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For #3:<br />
<a href="http://www.raaf.org/projects.php?pcat=2&amp;proj=4" rel="nofollow">Sabrina Raaf?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Art Fag City</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98376</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Fag City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I missed some of the specificity in those visual queues, though it's clear you weren't buying Manovich hook line and sinker.  Interestingly, I wasn't translating cat, so I was reading it as chats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I missed some of the specificity in those visual queues, though it&#8217;s clear you weren&#8217;t buying Manovich hook line and sinker.  Interestingly, I wasn&#8217;t translating cat, so I was reading it as chats.</p>
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		<title>By: 1f54tom moody</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98374</link>
		<dc:creator>1f54tom moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Donald Frazell:
There is a rather solid tradition in visual art of errors and accidents providing visual interest or leading to new content.

To Paddy:
All of my considerations of Manovich were meant as sardonic jokes. My conception of new media is about 180 degrees from his. The LoVid patchwork (a page with it and others is linked to on my page) is the antithesis of numerical data--it is made of video "noise" printed out on cloth and hand sewn--a unique unrepeatable object. The "tree" from CPB's blog, translated from French, reduces the priorities of the network to images, dogs, and cats. The mouse scribbles were an over-the-top literalization of the concept of "automatic writing." Your description of Item 4 was what I intended: repeatability of an idea is not necessarily good. And item 5 is a Mac misreading a crisp animated GIF by adding undesired anti-aliasing effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Donald Frazell:<br />
There is a rather solid tradition in visual art of errors and accidents providing visual interest or leading to new content.</p>
<p>To Paddy:<br />
All of my considerations of Manovich were meant as sardonic jokes. My conception of new media is about 180 degrees from his. The LoVid patchwork (a page with it and others is linked to on my page) is the antithesis of numerical data&#8211;it is made of video &#8220;noise&#8221; printed out on cloth and hand sewn&#8211;a unique unrepeatable object. The &#8220;tree&#8221; from CPB&#8217;s blog, translated from French, reduces the priorities of the network to images, dogs, and cats. The mouse scribbles were an over-the-top literalization of the concept of &#8220;automatic writing.&#8221; Your description of Item 4 was what I intended: repeatability of an idea is not necessarily good. And item 5 is a Mac misreading a crisp animated GIF by adding undesired anti-aliasing effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Frazell</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/09/22/the-five-principles-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-98362</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Frazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my work field, digital imaging, most of these are what you call computer gliches, not art. See em all the time, andn its not a good thing, waste of material. Same here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my work field, digital imaging, most of these are what you call computer gliches, not art. See em all the time, andn its not a good thing, waste of material. Same here.</p>
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