<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Massive Links! More Talk, Less Links Edition</title> <atom:link href="http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/</link> <description>New York art news and reviews.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:20:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Art Fag City</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-84165</link> <dc:creator>Art Fag City</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:10:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-84165</guid> <description>The Hill:  Thanks for this comment.  I have to be honest, I thought the work looked poorly painted myself, but I haven&#039;t seen it in person so I wasn&#039;t an opinion I could back with the experience of a looking at it first hand.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hill:  Thanks for this comment.  I have to be honest, I thought the work looked poorly painted myself, but I haven&#8217;t seen it in person so I wasn&#8217;t an opinion I could back with the experience of a looking at it first hand.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Art Fag City</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-314424</link> <dc:creator>Art Fag City</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-314424</guid> <description>The Hill:  Thanks for this comment.  I have to be honest, I thought the work looked poorly painted myself, but I haven&#039;t seen it in person so I wasn&#039;t an opinion I could back with the experience of a looking at it first hand.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hill:  Thanks for this comment.  I have to be honest, I thought the work looked poorly painted myself, but I haven&#8217;t seen it in person so I wasn&#8217;t an opinion I could back with the experience of a looking at it first hand.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Art Fag City</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-314425</link> <dc:creator>Art Fag City</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-314425</guid> <description>The Hill:  Thanks for this comment.  I have to be honest, I thought the work looked poorly painted myself, but I haven&#039;t seen it in person so I wasn&#039;t an opinion I could back with the experience of a looking at it first hand.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hill:  Thanks for this comment.  I have to be honest, I thought the work looked poorly painted myself, but I haven&#8217;t seen it in person so I wasn&#8217;t an opinion I could back with the experience of a looking at it first hand.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Hill</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-84163</link> <dc:creator>The Hill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:03:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-84163</guid> <description>Re: the selling of Pollock&#039;s Mural. I did my Master&#039;s at the U of Iowa and so I have a serviceable insider&#039;s take on Mural&#039;s ontology. As the hearsay goes, the work originally was handled poorly by the museum. I think it came to Iowa via Pollock&#039;s Visiting Artist stay in the 40&#039;s, but from what the Museum workers said, it pretty much sat in a closet rolled up on the floor. This allegedly prompted Peggy Guggenheim to attempt to get it back, some saying there was an attempt to steal it back. Pearls before swine kinda thing, I guess, as the rolled canvas laid against a Motherwell, also kept in the closet, a long closet.My opinion is that selling it to a MOCA or MOMA might not be a bad thing. The question comes down to who benefits from the work. The students in painting tend to be figurative and conservative who often dismissed Mural as poorly painted. Motherwell&#039;s comment that the painting took Pollock 10 hours to paint was a source of derision, although it&#039;s doubtful it was done in only 10 hours. Moreover, the traffic of spectators in the Museum is small, the usual public school kids, occasional art students and openings. Since most people go home for the weak ends, the Museum dies during that time. Placing the work in NY, LA or DC would obviously increase its viewing. The downside to the Iowa Museum, the other works of similar vintage, a fabulous, huge pre-Duco DeKooning woman, a classic all black Rheinhardt and a Joan Mitchel would all be candidates for sale and stick out like sore thumbs. So while Tyler Green&#039;s citation of collusion has merit, the outcome might not be so bad.To add to the Museum&#039;s flood damage, I chanced into an art history major at Girl Talk at Lollapalooza who told me the new art building either has been condemned or has to be abandoned for students due to flood damage. This is the one which won all kinds of architectural awards for design and greeness, and was only a year old. This might add to the mix if the Museum is under the control of the Art &amp; Art History Dept. and they desperately need new money.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the selling of Pollock&#8217;s Mural. I did my Master&#8217;s at the U of Iowa and so I have a serviceable insider&#8217;s take on Mural&#8217;s ontology. As the hearsay goes, the work originally was handled poorly by the museum. I think it came to Iowa via Pollock&#8217;s Visiting Artist stay in the 40&#8242;s, but from what the Museum workers said, it pretty much sat in a closet rolled up on the floor. This allegedly prompted Peggy Guggenheim to attempt to get it back, some saying there was an attempt to steal it back. Pearls before swine kinda thing, I guess, as the rolled canvas laid against a Motherwell, also kept in the closet, a long closet.</p><p>My opinion is that selling it to a MOCA or MOMA might not be a bad thing. The question comes down to who benefits from the work. The students in painting tend to be figurative and conservative who often dismissed Mural as poorly painted. Motherwell&#8217;s comment that the painting took Pollock 10 hours to paint was a source of derision, although it&#8217;s doubtful it was done in only 10 hours. Moreover, the traffic of spectators in the Museum is small, the usual public school kids, occasional art students and openings. Since most people go home for the weak ends, the Museum dies during that time. Placing the work in NY, LA or DC would obviously increase its viewing. The downside to the Iowa Museum, the other works of similar vintage, a fabulous, huge pre-Duco DeKooning woman, a classic all black Rheinhardt and a Joan Mitchel would all be candidates for sale and stick out like sore thumbs. So while Tyler Green&#8217;s citation of collusion has merit, the outcome might not be so bad.</p><p>To add to the Museum&#8217;s flood damage, I chanced into an art history major at Girl Talk at Lollapalooza who told me the new art building either has been condemned or has to be abandoned for students due to flood damage. This is the one which won all kinds of architectural awards for design and greeness, and was only a year old. This might add to the mix if the Museum is under the control of the Art &amp; Art History Dept. and they desperately need new money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Hill</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-314423</link> <dc:creator>The Hill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-314423</guid> <description>Re: the selling of Pollock&#039;s Mural. I did my Master&#039;s at the U of Iowa and so I have a serviceable insider&#039;s take on Mural&#039;s ontology. As the hearsay goes, the work originally was handled poorly by the museum. I think it came to Iowa via Pollock&#039;s Visiting Artist stay in the 40&#039;s, but from what the Museum workers said, it pretty much sat in a closet rolled up on the floor. This allegedly prompted Peggy Guggenheim to attempt to get it back, some saying there was an attempt to steal it back. Pearls before swine kinda thing, I guess, as the rolled canvas laid against a Motherwell, also kept in the closet, a long closet.My opinion is that selling it to a MOCA or MOMA might not be a bad thing. The question comes down to who benefits from the work. The students in painting tend to be figurative and conservative who often dismissed Mural as poorly painted. Motherwell&#039;s comment that the painting took Pollock 10 hours to paint was a source of derision, although it&#039;s doubtful it was done in only 10 hours. Moreover, the traffic of spectators in the Museum is small, the usual public school kids, occasional art students and openings. Since most people go home for the weak ends, the Museum dies during that time. Placing the work in NY, LA or DC would obviously increase its viewing. The downside to the Iowa Museum, the other works of similar vintage, a fabulous, huge pre-Duco DeKooning woman, a classic all black Rheinhardt and a Joan Mitchel would all be candidates for sale and stick out like sore thumbs. So while Tyler Green&#039;s citation of collusion has merit, the outcome might not be so bad.To add to the Museum&#039;s flood damage, I chanced into an art history major at Girl Talk at Lollapalooza who told me the new art building either has been condemned or has to be abandoned for students due to flood damage. This is the one which won all kinds of architectural awards for design and greeness, and was only a year old. This might add to the mix if the Museum is under the control of the Art &amp; Art History Dept. and they desperately need new money.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the selling of Pollock&#8217;s Mural. I did my Master&#8217;s at the U of Iowa and so I have a serviceable insider&#8217;s take on Mural&#8217;s ontology. As the hearsay goes, the work originally was handled poorly by the museum. I think it came to Iowa via Pollock&#8217;s Visiting Artist stay in the 40&#8242;s, but from what the Museum workers said, it pretty much sat in a closet rolled up on the floor. This allegedly prompted Peggy Guggenheim to attempt to get it back, some saying there was an attempt to steal it back. Pearls before swine kinda thing, I guess, as the rolled canvas laid against a Motherwell, also kept in the closet, a long closet.</p><p>My opinion is that selling it to a MOCA or MOMA might not be a bad thing. The question comes down to who benefits from the work. The students in painting tend to be figurative and conservative who often dismissed Mural as poorly painted. Motherwell&#8217;s comment that the painting took Pollock 10 hours to paint was a source of derision, although it&#8217;s doubtful it was done in only 10 hours. Moreover, the traffic of spectators in the Museum is small, the usual public school kids, occasional art students and openings. Since most people go home for the weak ends, the Museum dies during that time. Placing the work in NY, LA or DC would obviously increase its viewing. The downside to the Iowa Museum, the other works of similar vintage, a fabulous, huge pre-Duco DeKooning woman, a classic all black Rheinhardt and a Joan Mitchel would all be candidates for sale and stick out like sore thumbs. So while Tyler Green&#8217;s citation of collusion has merit, the outcome might not be so bad.</p><p>To add to the Museum&#8217;s flood damage, I chanced into an art history major at Girl Talk at Lollapalooza who told me the new art building either has been condemned or has to be abandoned for students due to flood damage. This is the one which won all kinds of architectural awards for design and greeness, and was only a year old. This might add to the mix if the Museum is under the control of the Art &amp; Art History Dept. and they desperately need new money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ian Aleksander Adams</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-84020</link> <dc:creator>Ian Aleksander Adams</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:05:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-84020</guid> <description>Well said. It annoys me more that mainstream paid art commentary often seems to be totally oblivious compared to the people giving it away for free. How hard is it to hire someone observant?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. It annoys me more that mainstream paid art commentary often seems to be totally oblivious compared to the people giving it away for free. How hard is it to hire someone observant?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ian Aleksander Adams</title><link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-314422</link> <dc:creator>Ian Aleksander Adams</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/08/12/massive-links-more-talk-less-links-edition/#comment-314422</guid> <description>Well said. It annoys me more that mainstream paid art commentary often seems to be totally oblivious compared to the people giving it away for free. How hard is it to hire someone observant?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. It annoys me more that mainstream paid art commentary often seems to be totally oblivious compared to the people giving it away for free. How hard is it to hire someone observant?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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