http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/ New York art news and reviews. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-90505 Kari Altmann Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:21:56 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-90505 Haha, not trying to "win" just, ya know, "conversation starting" Haha, not trying to “win” just, ya know, “conversation starting”

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-314023 Kari Altmann Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:21:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-314023 Haha, not trying to "win" just, ya know, "conversation starting" Haha, not trying to “win” just, ya know, “conversation starting”

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-89459 tom moody Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:27:42 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-89459 OK you win. I'm not going to defend Kevin's philosophy as some kind of cheeky sarcasm since he seems to be getting more into this hippie mysticism and as I said on my twitter page "the art does not happen in my chakras." OK you win. I’m not going to defend Kevin’s philosophy as some kind of cheeky sarcasm since he seems to be getting more into this hippie mysticism and as I said on my twitter page “the art does not happen in my chakras.”

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-314022 tom moody Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:27:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-314022 OK you win. I'm not going to defend Kevin's philosophy as some kind of cheeky sarcasm since he seems to be getting more into this hippie mysticism and as I said on my twitter page "the art does not happen in my chakras." OK you win. I’m not going to defend Kevin’s philosophy as some kind of cheeky sarcasm since he seems to be getting more into this hippie mysticism and as I said on my twitter page “the art does not happen in my chakras.”

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-89450 Kari Altmann Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:43:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-89450 I think I've just been reading Kevin's philosophies a lot and tend to disagree with him so its possible I'm trying to locate that same disagreeance in our posts. He claims the physical has no value and I strongly disagree - in a way I feel those youtubers, when collected in that manner, displayed that same disregard for physicality which is what I was attempting to critique. IE when you disregard your physical existence so recklessly a higher "nature" (especially one you created through this attitude) almost deserves to win because you failed to understand your contract with it. We were using similar methods I agree - but expressing something different. I was also influenced by your blog in which you seemed to suggest that Kevin was one of the artists attempting to infuse the computer world of deadness with some kind of spiritual presence - whereas I think I'm trying to promote a more holistic approach of "spirit" and deadness existing on both sides since both are physical environments... I think I’ve just been reading Kevin’s philosophies a lot and tend to disagree with him so its possible I’m trying to locate that same disagreeance in our posts. He claims the physical has no value and I strongly disagree – in a way I feel those youtubers, when collected in that manner, displayed that same disregard for physicality which is what I was attempting to critique. IE when you disregard your physical existence so recklessly a higher “nature” (especially one you created through this attitude) almost deserves to win because you failed to understand your contract with it. We were using similar methods I agree – but expressing something different. I was also influenced by your blog in which you seemed to suggest that Kevin was one of the artists attempting to infuse the computer world of deadness with some kind of spiritual presence – whereas I think I’m trying to promote a more holistic approach of “spirit” and deadness existing on both sides since both are physical environments…

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-314021 Kari Altmann Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:43:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-314021 I think I've just been reading Kevin's philosophies a lot and tend to disagree with him so its possible I'm trying to locate that same disagreeance in our posts. He claims the physical has no value and I strongly disagree - in a way I feel those youtubers, when collected in that manner, displayed that same disregard for physicality which is what I was attempting to critique. IE when you disregard your physical existence so recklessly a higher "nature" (especially one you created through this attitude) almost deserves to win because you failed to understand your contract with it. We were using similar methods I agree - but expressing something different. I was also influenced by your blog in which you seemed to suggest that Kevin was one of the artists attempting to infuse the computer world of deadness with some kind of spiritual presence - whereas I think I'm trying to promote a more holistic approach of "spirit" and deadness existing on both sides since both are physical environments... I think I’ve just been reading Kevin’s philosophies a lot and tend to disagree with him so its possible I’m trying to locate that same disagreeance in our posts. He claims the physical has no value and I strongly disagree – in a way I feel those youtubers, when collected in that manner, displayed that same disregard for physicality which is what I was attempting to critique. IE when you disregard your physical existence so recklessly a higher “nature” (especially one you created through this attitude) almost deserves to win because you failed to understand your contract with it. We were using similar methods I agree – but expressing something different. I was also influenced by your blog in which you seemed to suggest that Kevin was one of the artists attempting to infuse the computer world of deadness with some kind of spiritual presence – whereas I think I’m trying to promote a more holistic approach of “spirit” and deadness existing on both sides since both are physical environments…

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-86589 tom moody Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:35:04 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-86589 I think the ways the posts differ are interesting, my objective was not to "lump" them (if lump means marginalize). I'm guessing Kevin Bewersdorf would also say his collection finds awkward moments (or is an extended awkward moment) where transcendence tries to exist and, by juxtaposition (or sheer repetition), calls it out on its failure. I don't think your goals are that dissimilar from his. The difference between the two of you and Chernick is I believe he loves his subject matter and you love/hate yours. I think the ways the posts differ are interesting, my objective was not to “lump” them (if lump means marginalize). I’m guessing Kevin Bewersdorf would also say his collection finds awkward moments (or is an extended awkward moment) where transcendence tries to exist and, by juxtaposition (or sheer repetition), calls it out on its failure. I don’t think your goals are that dissimilar from his. The difference between the two of you and Chernick is I believe he loves his subject matter and you love/hate yours.

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-314020 tom moody Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:35:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-314020 I think the ways the posts differ are interesting, my objective was not to "lump" them (if lump means marginalize). I'm guessing Kevin Bewersdorf would also say his collection finds awkward moments (or is an extended awkward moment) where transcendence tries to exist and, by juxtaposition (or sheer repetition), calls it out on its failure. I don't think your goals are that dissimilar from his. The difference between the two of you and Chernick is I believe he loves his subject matter and you love/hate yours. I think the ways the posts differ are interesting, my objective was not to “lump” them (if lump means marginalize). I’m guessing Kevin Bewersdorf would also say his collection finds awkward moments (or is an extended awkward moment) where transcendence tries to exist and, by juxtaposition (or sheer repetition), calls it out on its failure. I don’t think your goals are that dissimilar from his. The difference between the two of you and Chernick is I believe he loves his subject matter and you love/hate yours.

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-85971 Kari Altmann Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:14:53 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-85971 I was wondering if you would lump it in with those. To be honest I feel like it's very different in that it was originally posted with zero commentary - and that's how it's meant to be seen. I see the "artist comments" as more of a conversation in reaction to the piece. I also feel I take a slightly different approach toward the transcendent in my collection, finding akward moments where it tries to exist and, by juxtaposition, calling it out on its failure. I think the whole point of my post was that the people in those videos never went anywhere, only somewhere imagined/virtual, therefore my post created a virtual scenario of why they might have vanished that critiqued them at the same time. I was wondering if you would lump it in with those. To be honest I feel like it’s very different in that it was originally posted with zero commentary – and that’s how it’s meant to be seen. I see the “artist comments” as more of a conversation in reaction to the piece. I also feel I take a slightly different approach toward the transcendent in my collection, finding akward moments where it tries to exist and, by juxtaposition, calling it out on its failure. I think the whole point of my post was that the people in those videos never went anywhere, only somewhere imagined/virtual, therefore my post created a virtual scenario of why they might have vanished that critiqued them at the same time.

]]> http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-314019 Kari Altmann Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:14:00 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/07/29/img-mgmt-the-conversation-starter/#comment-314019 I was wondering if you would lump it in with those. To be honest I feel like it's very different in that it was originally posted with zero commentary - and that's how it's meant to be seen. I see the "artist comments" as more of a conversation in reaction to the piece. I also feel I take a slightly different approach toward the transcendent in my collection, finding akward moments where it tries to exist and, by juxtaposition, calling it out on its failure. I think the whole point of my post was that the people in those videos never went anywhere, only somewhere imagined/virtual, therefore my post created a virtual scenario of why they might have vanished that critiqued them at the same time. I was wondering if you would lump it in with those. To be honest I feel like it’s very different in that it was originally posted with zero commentary – and that’s how it’s meant to be seen. I see the “artist comments” as more of a conversation in reaction to the piece. I also feel I take a slightly different approach toward the transcendent in my collection, finding akward moments where it tries to exist and, by juxtaposition, calling it out on its failure. I think the whole point of my post was that the people in those videos never went anywhere, only somewhere imagined/virtual, therefore my post created a virtual scenario of why they might have vanished that critiqued them at the same time.

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