Comments on: Massive Links! Feminist Pop Culture Edition http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/ As relevant as Eric Fischl. New York art news, reviews and gossip. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:32:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Joe McKay http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-59198 Joe McKay Sat, 10 May 2008 19:37:44 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/#comment-59198 To confuse sex in GTA with a real sexual experience is pretty outrageous. I like the line “if you get through the trailer” - try actually playing the game maybe? I’ve seen 3 types of sexual encounter in the game so far. - you can get a lap dance in a strip club. - you can have sex in your car with a prostitute - you can have sex with the woman you are dating. I don’t know what constitutes graphic, but there’s no encounter here that shows anything you wouldn’t see on a prime time tv show. The lap dance is absurd and over the top. Yes, you could commit violence after the dance but there are lots of security in there and you’d never make it out alive. The sex with a prostitute is accompanied by your character talking about how degraded and cheap he feels for doing it. It’s not sexy or romantic, it’s uncomfortable and awkward. It does not glamorize prostitution in any way. Yes, you could be violent towards her after the act, but there is no indication that this is what you should do, and in truth it would be out of character for Niko to do it. The sex with your girlfriend is done off camera and you have no opportunity to be violent with her. SPOILER - It is you, in fact, who ends up getting heartbroken in the long run. Niko is closer to Tony Soprano than any other character. He’s a despicable man who does despicable things. He’s also, funny and has his own messed up ethics and values that you come to appreciate. Rockstar isn’t say that Niko isn’t a jerk, they’re saying he’s an interesting complicated jerk. And like Tony Soprano Niko is not you, even though for an hour you may empathize with him. To confuse sex in GTA with a real sexual experience is pretty outrageous. I like the line “if you get through the trailer” - try actually playing the game maybe? I’ve seen 3 types of sexual encounter in the game so far.
- you can get a lap dance in a strip club.
- you can have sex in your car with a prostitute
- you can have sex with the woman you are dating.
I don’t know what constitutes graphic, but there’s no encounter here that shows anything you wouldn’t see on a prime time tv show.
The lap dance is absurd and over the top. Yes, you could commit violence after the dance but there are lots of security in there and you’d never make it out alive. The sex with a prostitute is accompanied by your character talking about how degraded and cheap he feels for doing it. It’s not sexy or romantic, it’s uncomfortable and awkward. It does not glamorize prostitution in any way. Yes, you could be violent towards her after the act, but there is no indication that this is what you should do, and in truth it would be out of character for Niko to do it.
The sex with your girlfriend is done off camera and you have no opportunity to be violent with her. SPOILER - It is you, in fact, who ends up getting heartbroken in the long run.

Niko is closer to Tony Soprano than any other character. He’s a despicable man who does despicable things. He’s also, funny and has his own messed up ethics and values that you come to appreciate. Rockstar isn’t say that Niko isn’t a jerk, they’re saying he’s an interesting complicated jerk. And like Tony Soprano Niko is not you, even though for an hour you may empathize with him.

]]> By: marcin http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-56045 marcin Fri, 02 May 2008 22:36:27 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/#comment-56045 Paddy, I was just installing "Mystery is looking", a video piece by Alicja Zebrowska ... I think her work is pretty amazing in the context of 2-3rd generation feminism. It was done in the late 90ies, but it seems pretty radical today... http://www.onone.art.pl/gallery/index.htm Paddy, I was just installing “Mystery is looking”, a video piece by Alicja Zebrowska … I think her work is pretty amazing in the context of 2-3rd generation feminism. It was done in the late 90ies, but it seems pretty radical today…
http://www.onone.art.pl/gallery/index.htm

]]> By: Art Fag City http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-55916 Art Fag City Fri, 02 May 2008 18:18:01 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/#comment-55916 Well, that is an improvement from the last one - though certainly the sex and what not is much more graphic than previous incarnations. Do you also take issue with the assertion that they are forcibly performing sex acts? Well, that is an improvement from the last one - though certainly the sex and what not is much more graphic than previous incarnations. Do you also take issue with the assertion that they are forcibly performing sex acts?

]]> By: Dean Wermer http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-55895 Dean Wermer Fri, 02 May 2008 18:03:19 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/05/02/massive-links-feminist-pop-culture-edition/#comment-55895 The proposition that most women in GTA are killed after forcibly performing sex acts is misleading. GTA allows the gamer/player to kill absolutely anyone. Now, one may object to the violence inherent in the game, but give GTA its due, it is equal opportunity violent. The proposition that most women in GTA are killed after forcibly performing sex acts is misleading. GTA allows the gamer/player to kill absolutely anyone. Now, one may object to the violence inherent in the game, but give GTA its due, it is equal opportunity violent.

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