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	<title>Comments on: Ryan McGinley Inspires Inspid Reporting</title>
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		<title>By: tom moody</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47482</link>
		<author>tom moody</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I find it really annoying. Also the photo--"running nude with sneakers."</description>
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		<title>By: deaner</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47529</link>
		<author>deaner</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm just taking this all in and don't have an opinion yet. So, very honestly, I'd like to ask you - what do you think of Ryan McGinley's work ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just taking this all in and don&#8217;t have an opinion yet. So, very honestly, I&#8217;d like to ask you - what do you think of Ryan McGinley&#8217;s work ?</p>
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		<title>By: jacson</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47571</link>
		<author>jacson</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>in all fairness, they weren't reviewing the show, that was from the photoblog documenting the opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in all fairness, they weren&#8217;t reviewing the show, that was from the photoblog documenting the opening.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Fag City</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47572</link>
		<author>Art Fag City</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jacson: The post doesn't ask for a review though, it asks for reporting that is less pandering.  

Deaner:  I may write about the work, so I'll know better at that time, but as a general observation, I'd say it's really hard to have an objective opinion about his work because he's so famous. Every time you look at his work, you're also looking at his public personality.  So I guess I'd say, that the works I've seen in person haven't blown me away, but I haven't seen the show, so I can't judge it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacson: The post doesn&#8217;t ask for a review though, it asks for reporting that is less pandering.  </p>
<p>Deaner:  I may write about the work, so I&#8217;ll know better at that time, but as a general observation, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s really hard to have an objective opinion about his work because he&#8217;s so famous. Every time you look at his work, you&#8217;re also looking at his public personality.  So I guess I&#8217;d say, that the works I&#8217;ve seen in person haven&#8217;t blown me away, but I haven&#8217;t seen the show, so I can&#8217;t judge it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47627</link>
		<author>Sam</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47627</guid>
					<description>Well, I have to say, AFC, in response to your comment: I, admittedly, am not as informed as others on the "who's who" bullshit that makes the art world what it is. I have seen and studied a lot of photography, though, and I can say that I really liked this show a lot. So, I can safely say I have seen his work without seeing HIM.

Second, in response to your question in the post itself, "Does anyone else find this really annoying?" I have to be honest with you: while maybe the snippet is pandering, and perhaps even annoying depending on one's mood (not to mention its source), I found your reaction to also be a little annoying. It is elitist. You draw attention to both the quote and yourself in a way that suggests a worthlessness of his words, and a higher value to yours, despite the fact that you haven't even seen the work that inspired the comment to begin with. At any rate, all either of you seems to be talking about here is Ryan McGinley himself, so if you don't like McGinley, it might be better to just say so and say that you disagree with Artforum, rather than be sarcastic. It would make you sound more reputable and respectable, and make for something more interesting and worthwhile to read.

Not trying to be confrontational or aggressive. This is coming from someone who appreciates you for information in/on the art world. Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have to say, AFC, in response to your comment: I, admittedly, am not as informed as others on the &#8220;who&#8217;s who&#8221; bullshit that makes the art world what it is. I have seen and studied a lot of photography, though, and I can say that I really liked this show a lot. So, I can safely say I have seen his work without seeing HIM.</p>
<p>Second, in response to your question in the post itself, &#8220;Does anyone else find this really annoying?&#8221; I have to be honest with you: while maybe the snippet is pandering, and perhaps even annoying depending on one&#8217;s mood (not to mention its source), I found your reaction to also be a little annoying. It is elitist. You draw attention to both the quote and yourself in a way that suggests a worthlessness of his words, and a higher value to yours, despite the fact that you haven&#8217;t even seen the work that inspired the comment to begin with. At any rate, all either of you seems to be talking about here is Ryan McGinley himself, so if you don&#8217;t like McGinley, it might be better to just say so and say that you disagree with Artforum, rather than be sarcastic. It would make you sound more reputable and respectable, and make for something more interesting and worthwhile to read.</p>
<p>Not trying to be confrontational or aggressive. This is coming from someone who appreciates you for information in/on the art world. Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Fag City</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47633</link>
		<author>Art Fag City</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47633</guid>
					<description>Sam:  I see your point, but even without the bit about Wyeth that comment would have been annoying.  That probably doesn't stop the response from being a little grating (now that you point it out, unfortunately, I see it), but given this, I think the fact that I haven't seen the show isn't a very strong point.  

Also, "haven't been blown away" doesn't mean dislike.  Over rated maybe, but I wouldn't go so far as dislike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam:  I see your point, but even without the bit about Wyeth that comment would have been annoying.  That probably doesn&#8217;t stop the response from being a little grating (now that you point it out, unfortunately, I see it), but given this, I think the fact that I haven&#8217;t seen the show isn&#8217;t a very strong point.  </p>
<p>Also, &#8220;haven&#8217;t been blown away&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean dislike.  Over rated maybe, but I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as dislike.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pincus</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47772</link>
		<author>Paul Pincus</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47772</guid>
					<description>I really loved this new series of work by Ryan McGinley.  "Falling Cornfield" is one of the most beautiful photographs I think I have ever seen.  You're right...Artforum gushed a little...but I think it has to do with the combination of such strong work and Ryan's innate glamour...seriously.  

Now I'm gushing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really loved this new series of work by Ryan McGinley.  &#8220;Falling Cornfield&#8221; is one of the most beautiful photographs I think I have ever seen.  You&#8217;re right&#8230;Artforum gushed a little&#8230;but I think it has to do with the combination of such strong work and Ryan&#8217;s innate glamour&#8230;seriously.  </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m gushing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47798</link>
		<author>Sam</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-47798</guid>
					<description>AFC: I think I read your dislike from the way you were speaking, not from what you were saying. Also, I was merely including your lack of having seen the show as a means of leveling the playing field. But thanks for your response!

All that aside, I think you should definitely see the show. It's a strong body overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFC: I think I read your dislike from the way you were speaking, not from what you were saying. Also, I was merely including your lack of having seen the show as a means of leveling the playing field. But thanks for your response!</p>
<p>All that aside, I think you should definitely see the show. It&#8217;s a strong body overall.</p>
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		<title>By: retortage</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-48301</link>
		<author>retortage</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-48301</guid>
					<description>This "work" is beyond meaningless. It's basically "hot young art kids gone wild." I can almost hear the screams of "take it off" and the sounds of drugs being snorted all across his fake road trips in search of beauty in depravity. These people are auditioned for and unlike his originals, the photo's have zero substance. Well, maybe not zero. That would be more like those Morrissey color splash pictures. These have a tiny bit of substance in that they reference his photos when from when looking at them didn't want to make me throw up in my mouth.

And has anyone even seen a Wyeth painting recently? I thought they were trite, sentimental, american folk garbage, but actually, they're skillfully made, thoughtful and quite beautiful. I don't want to say he's turning over in his grave, but he might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;work&#8221; is beyond meaningless. It&#8217;s basically &#8220;hot young art kids gone wild.&#8221; I can almost hear the screams of &#8220;take it off&#8221; and the sounds of drugs being snorted all across his fake road trips in search of beauty in depravity. These people are auditioned for and unlike his originals, the photo&#8217;s have zero substance. Well, maybe not zero. That would be more like those Morrissey color splash pictures. These have a tiny bit of substance in that they reference his photos when from when looking at them didn&#8217;t want to make me throw up in my mouth.</p>
<p>And has anyone even seen a Wyeth painting recently? I thought they were trite, sentimental, american folk garbage, but actually, they&#8217;re skillfully made, thoughtful and quite beautiful. I don&#8217;t want to say he&#8217;s turning over in his grave, but he might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Arundel</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-48809</link>
		<author>Arundel</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, I do find the gushing praise over McGinley annoying.  It very much is based on his persona as a scenester, and not the work.

Which isn't terrible, except for reminding me of Abercrombie ads minus the sexy people. And the minimal aesthetic quality as photographs- well it seems like snapshots of trust-fund hippies larking about on drugs.  It reminds me of what I hated about Darjeeling Express- beautiful scenery in an exotic setting, self-absorbed characters on a road trip.  "Like, wow- America beyond the Lower East Side is like, wow- let's get naked."

It's more about the imagined lifestyle of the artist than the photos-  famous, carefree, young, hip and successful.   But really boring and any aesthetic value in a single photo almost seems like an accident.  Just mho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do find the gushing praise over McGinley annoying.  It very much is based on his persona as a scenester, and not the work.</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t terrible, except for reminding me of Abercrombie ads minus the sexy people. And the minimal aesthetic quality as photographs- well it seems like snapshots of trust-fund hippies larking about on drugs.  It reminds me of what I hated about Darjeeling Express- beautiful scenery in an exotic setting, self-absorbed characters on a road trip.  &#8220;Like, wow- America beyond the Lower East Side is like, wow- let&#8217;s get naked.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more about the imagined lifestyle of the artist than the photos-  famous, carefree, young, hip and successful.   But really boring and any aesthetic value in a single photo almost seems like an accident.  Just mho.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Nella</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-49933</link>
		<author>Johnny Nella</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don’t want to say he’s turning over in his grave, but he might be.
retortage // 18 Apr 2008, 12:05 pm 

Andrew Wyeth isn't dead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t want to say he’s turning over in his grave, but he might be.<br />
retortage // 18 Apr 2008, 12:05 pm </p>
<p>Andrew Wyeth isn&#8217;t dead</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pincus</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-50048</link>
		<author>Paul Pincus</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-50048</guid>
					<description>retortage:  I think you've found your soul mate in Arundel ; )

You once thought of Andrew Wyeth as trite, sentimental, american folk garbage...but you eventually woke up...I sense the same thing will happen for you regarding Ryan.

I'm happy that Johnny Nella set you straight about Mr. Wyeth...who is still happily at work.

ps not all of the Morrissey series were colour spash pictures...some were non-colour splash pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>retortage:  I think you&#8217;ve found your soul mate in Arundel ; )</p>
<p>You once thought of Andrew Wyeth as trite, sentimental, american folk garbage&#8230;but you eventually woke up&#8230;I sense the same thing will happen for you regarding Ryan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy that Johnny Nella set you straight about Mr. Wyeth&#8230;who is still happily at work.</p>
<p>ps not all of the Morrissey series were colour spash pictures&#8230;some were non-colour splash pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: tom moody</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-50925</link>
		<author>tom moody</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A world of playful innocence, where attractive young people frolic naked and unashamed. Brought to you by  an artist and his professional team, scouting the country for locations. Just like Disney, except for the naked part.
"Running nude with sneakers" will likely grow more silly with the years, not less.
The precedent is Maxfield Parrish, not Wyeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A world of playful innocence, where attractive young people frolic naked and unashamed. Brought to you by  an artist and his professional team, scouting the country for locations. Just like Disney, except for the naked part.<br />
&#8220;Running nude with sneakers&#8221; will likely grow more silly with the years, not less.<br />
The precedent is Maxfield Parrish, not Wyeth.</p>
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		<title>By: valerie gisiger</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-59187</link>
		<author>valerie gisiger</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>When I was a child,I hated the Max parrish"Dinky Bird "illustration-it bugged,it seemed precious,as far as I could sense such a quality at that early age-and the one of a chick with her legs spread open,in a truck,just hate it-it is all so unnatural,and really pointless."MY friends are pretty"fuck you-you fucking hired them -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a child,I hated the Max parrish&#8221;Dinky Bird &#8220;illustration-it bugged,it seemed precious,as far as I could sense such a quality at that early age-and the one of a chick with her legs spread open,in a truck,just hate it-it is all so unnatural,and really pointless.&#8221;MY friends are pretty&#8221;fuck you-you fucking hired them -</p>
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		<title>By: valerie gisiger</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-59188</link>
		<author>valerie gisiger</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maxfield</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/16/ryan-mcginley-inspires-inspid-reporting/#comment-65590</link>
		<author>Rick</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know RM, but admire his work. From this starting point, will someone please tell me the name of the subject in "Running Field"? Nice ass whoever it is ;)</description>
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