Comments on: Massive Links! The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Edition http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/ As relevant as Eric Fischl. New York art news, reviews and gossip. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:47:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Art Fag City http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-44258 Art Fag City Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:23:20 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-44258 Really? I guess there are certain kind of challenging comments they aren't interested in. Really? I guess there are certain kind of challenging comments they aren’t interested in.

]]> By: chris l. http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-44257 chris l. Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:20:54 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-44257 You can't expect much from Boing Boing, and for the most part they're entertaining, but the promotion of hack artists is definitely one of their greater offenses. Oh yeah, don't ever try to critique on their posts in the comments section, they'll just delete you as a troll. You can’t expect much from Boing Boing, and for the most part they’re entertaining, but the promotion of hack artists is definitely one of their greater offenses.

Oh yeah, don’t ever try to critique on their posts in the comments section, they’ll just delete you as a troll.

]]> By: Breeze http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-39663 Breeze Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:12:35 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-39663 I like Rhizome, but my computer does not like it much. I always seem to get locked up. A fault of my computer I'm sure. I'm stuck with PAM (Perpetual Art Machine) and Myartspace until I can figure it out. I like Rhizome, but my computer does not like it much. I always seem to get locked up. A fault of my computer I’m sure. I’m stuck with PAM (Perpetual Art Machine) and Myartspace until I can figure it out.

]]> By: ed halter http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-39167 ed halter Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:05:47 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-39167 "glint of negativity" -- I like that. To be more generous, I took the choice of panel moderator as a mark that perhaps what these curators say cannot merely be taken at face value. “glint of negativity” — I like that.

To be more generous, I took the choice of panel moderator as a mark that perhaps what these curators say cannot merely be taken at face value.

]]> By: ed halter http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-39166 ed halter Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:03:17 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-39166 Dearest P+T I've commented on this at Rhizome. Briefly -- I am going to contribute longer features that are more like my traditional writing, but the blog posts will be in this bite-size vein. I agree that the smaller format doesn't leave tons of room for a deep engagement, but I don't view that as its primary role anyway. Dearest P+T

I’ve commented on this at Rhizome. Briefly — I am going to contribute longer features that are more like my traditional writing, but the blog posts will be in this bite-size vein. I agree that the smaller format doesn’t leave tons of room for a deep engagement, but I don’t view that as its primary role anyway.

]]> By: tom moody http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-38861 tom moody Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:39:29 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-38861 It has the potential not to be a fanzine if it can be opened up to serious pushback on all these press releases in the form of reviews. It's pretty daunting--not sure if I'm up to it personally (I do have a life). But it's a big step up for the organization from its email listServ days, and comments at least mean a slight, potential counterweight to the NewMu's institutional 16 ton block. Ed should just write about things he's passionate about, and be prepared to defend them to the plebes (within reason). The rest takes care of itself. It has the potential not to be a fanzine if it can be opened up to serious pushback on all these press releases in the form of reviews. It’s pretty daunting–not sure if I’m up to it personally (I do have a life).

But it’s a big step up for the organization from its email listServ days, and comments at least mean a slight, potential counterweight to the NewMu’s institutional 16 ton block.

Ed should just write about things he’s passionate about, and be prepared to defend them to the plebes (within reason). The rest takes care of itself.

]]> By: Art Fag City http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-38844 Art Fag City Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:15:52 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-38844 Of course one of things I really like about Ed is his critical thinking which of course won't show up too much on this blog in the form of negative opinions since it's basically a fanzine. It's a shame really, though I suppose I can see there being some problems in institutions taking critical positions, in the same way that it's not considered good form for dealers to publicly critique other dealers. As for Ed's comments on Rematerializing the Whatever, I also didn't get the sense that this was a real plug for the show. I have my doubts that he'll contribute to the conversation at all, given the tone of the blog, and the fact that he doesn't seem so engaged with the show. I mean, "Holy Fire curators Yves Bernard and Domenico Quaranta say that to speak of new media art "doesn't really make sense today," since "all contemporary art is, someway, new media art" and many artists prefer to state their concern as "just art." With a panel moderated by Patrick Lichty of anti-corporate hoaxsters The Yes Men, the debate on that claim is guaranteed to be lively." Singling out a stupid quote and observing there's likely to be a lot of disagreement with it doesn't seem all that neutral to me, even if he doesn't take an explicit stand on the issue. It's just the panel, not the show, but I guess I read it as a glint of negativity on the issue. Of course one of things I really like about Ed is his critical thinking which of course won’t show up too much on this blog in the form of negative opinions since it’s basically a fanzine. It’s a shame really, though I suppose I can see there being some problems in institutions taking critical positions, in the same way that it’s not considered good form for dealers to publicly critique other dealers. As for Ed’s comments on Rematerializing the Whatever, I also didn’t get the sense that this was a real plug for the show. I have my doubts that he’ll contribute to the conversation at all, given the tone of the blog, and the fact that he doesn’t seem so engaged with the show. I mean,

“Holy Fire curators Yves Bernard and Domenico Quaranta say that to speak of new media art “doesn’t really make sense today,” since “all contemporary art is, someway, new media art” and many artists prefer to state their concern as “just art.” With a panel moderated by Patrick Lichty of anti-corporate hoaxsters The Yes Men, the debate on that claim is guaranteed to be lively.”

Singling out a stupid quote and observing there’s likely to be a lot of disagreement with it doesn’t seem all that neutral to me, even if he doesn’t take an explicit stand on the issue. It’s just the panel, not the show, but I guess I read it as a glint of negativity on the issue.

]]> By: tom moody http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-38827 tom moody Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:48:50 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-38827 I like Ed Halter's writing and thinking too. Yet Ed's beginning in the new comment-enabled regime has not so far been auspicious, at least as far as defending shows he recommends (maybe he's out of town). A friend of mine who's following the thread about "Rematerializing the Whatever" said: "also, I didn't get the feeling that ed would defend this show, it seemed like he was putting it out there with a shrug. " I like Ed Halter’s writing and thinking too.

Yet Ed’s beginning in the new comment-enabled regime has not so far been auspicious, at least as far as defending shows he recommends (maybe he’s out of town).

A friend of mine who’s following the thread about “Rematerializing the Whatever” said:

“also, I didn’t get the feeling that ed would defend this show, it seemed like he was putting it out there with a shrug. “

]]> By: Patrick May http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-38803 Patrick May Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:11:31 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/04/03/massive-links-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-edition/#comment-38803 Thanks for the note about the cache issues on the Rhizome front page. It has been fixed, let us know if you find anything else. Cheers, Patrick Thanks for the note about the cache issues on the Rhizome front page. It has been fixed, let us know if you find anything else.

Cheers,

Patrick

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