Comments on: 3rd Ward Call For Artists http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/ As relevant as Eric Fischl. New York art news, reviews and gossip. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:51:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: Ethan http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23305 Ethan Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:57:27 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23305 I totally agree about submission fees. My attitude is "Keep the $1000 grant, and have the submissions free." Or if you <i>absolutely</i> must cover some associated costs, make the submission fee token (e.g., $5). I totally agree about submission fees. My attitude is “Keep the $1000 grant, and have the submissions free.” Or if you absolutely must cover some associated costs, make the submission fee token (e.g., $5).

]]> By: Deborah Fisher http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23367 Deborah Fisher Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:23:17 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23367 <b>Frown you should!</b> Taking a submissions fee is the tackiest thing an arts organization can do! Either the organization in question is a 501c3 and is too lazy to write a freaking grant (AIM Program) or, in the case of 3rd Ward, is a for-profit who is accustomed to making money off artists and doesn't know when to quit. 3rd ward has a great setup and offers great services to artists that are worth every penny. Charing reasonable fees for valuable things like shop space makes sense. But a submission is not a service and should not be treated like one. A submission fee is more like a tax on hope. It's a little moneymaking lottery: raffle-as-exhibition. The money collected from the losers allows the winners to win. It's got bad karma written all over it, and frankly, everyone with taste (and good art to submit) eschews "opportunities" that cost a quarter of a hundred dollars. 3rd ward should rethink this policy. It makes them look bad. Frown you should!

Taking a submissions fee is the tackiest thing an arts organization can do!

Either the organization in question is a 501c3 and is too lazy to write a freaking grant (AIM Program) or, in the case of 3rd Ward, is a for-profit who is accustomed to making money off artists and doesn’t know when to quit.

3rd ward has a great setup and offers great services to artists that are worth every penny. Charing reasonable fees for valuable things like shop space makes sense.

But a submission is not a service and should not be treated like one. A submission fee is more like a tax on hope. It’s a little moneymaking lottery: raffle-as-exhibition. The money collected from the losers allows the winners to win. It’s got bad karma written all over it, and frankly, everyone with taste (and good art to submit) eschews “opportunities” that cost a quarter of a hundred dollars.

3rd ward should rethink this policy. It makes them look bad.

]]> By: Listen & Be Heard Weekly » Blog Archive » calls for entries http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23430 Listen & Be Heard Weekly » Blog Archive » calls for entries Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:14:40 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23430 [...] 3rd Ward Call For Artists By Art Fag City Here’sa good opportunity for artists: 3rd Ward’s open call for their spring solo show. Direct from their website:. This SOLO SHOW is open to artists working in sculpture, photography, painting, printmaking, motion graphics, illustration … Art Fag City - http://www.artfagcity.com                 [...] […] 3rd Ward Call For Artists By Art Fag City Here’sa good opportunity for artists: 3rd Ward’s open call for their spring solo show. Direct from their website:. This SOLO SHOW is open to artists working in sculpture, photography, painting, printmaking, motion graphics, illustration … Art Fag City - http://www.artfagcity.com                 […]

]]> By: Art Fag City http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23431 Art Fag City Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:27:26 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23431 I feel like it must be becoming more acceptable to charge submission fees - I see them much more frequently than I ever used to, and it doesn't seem to automatically discredit the selection process. The thing I don't like about the submission cost, is that while lower than others I've seen, in this case they haven't revealed the panelists. Why pay to have your work reviewed when you don't know who will be looking at it? There's no way to know the bias of the judges, which tends to effect what you pick. That makes them look a little amateurish to me. I feel like it must be becoming more acceptable to charge submission fees - I see them much more frequently than I ever used to, and it doesn’t seem to automatically discredit the selection process. The thing I don’t like about the submission cost, is that while lower than others I’ve seen, in this case they haven’t revealed the panelists. Why pay to have your work reviewed when you don’t know who will be looking at it? There’s no way to know the bias of the judges, which tends to effect what you pick. That makes them look a little amateurish to me.

]]> By: Deborah Fisher http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23527 Deborah Fisher Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:29:10 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-23527 Okay, I was going on and on and on, and so I decided to just write about this topic on <a href="http://imasellout.info/" rel="nofollow">SELLOUT</a> today. Okay, I was going on and on and on, and so I decided to just write about this topic on SELLOUT today.

]]> By: moussette.com http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-84804 moussette.com Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:14:50 +0000 http://www.artfagcity.com/2008/01/23/3rd-ward-call-for-artists/#comment-84804 i figure that the people sponsoring these call for entries need to pay the people who are doing the viewing and judging, not unless they already have a vast group of contributors who support their nonprofit org. but from the struggling artist's point of view, if submitting artwork via mail, paying the postage and also entry fees, it can get expensive if you apply to many "calls for entry". i figure that the people sponsoring these call for entries need to pay the people who are doing the viewing and judging, not unless they already have a vast group of contributors who support their nonprofit org. but from the struggling artist’s point of view, if submitting artwork via mail, paying the postage and also entry fees, it can get expensive if you apply to many “calls for entry”.

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