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By: tom moody

tom moody — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:18:46 +0000

More thoughts here.

By: EH

EH — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:56:40 +0000

yeah, Tom. It really is a good show. See it and you too will believe.

PS Beware of Toni

By: m.river

m.river — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:55:16 +0000

On Topic - I keep thinking about David Hammons work in the show. Perfect. Off Topic - I <3 Toni Burlap XO

By: Laura Parnes

Laura Parnes — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:54:45 +0000

Hi Tom,
Did you actually see the show?
I agree that there are incredibly pressing issues to deal with right now, however the artworld is fueled by the richest people in the world. Many of whom are responsible for these “other” pressing issues you speak of. The absurdity of the artmarket and the sick power games that occur are symptomatic of something much larger. Understanding our relationship to it as arts workers is worthy of examination.
XX
Laura Parnes

PS m.river We are all Toni Burlap

By: implicit art » Tom Moody vs MTAA

implicit art » Tom Moody vs MTAA — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:39:04 +0000

[...] Check out the brawl in the comments at AFC. [...]

By: twhid

twhid — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:40:08 +0000

hi Tom,

I’m glad you agree that all subjects should be open to artists.

re: straw man, your reasons were a bit hidden. I’m a skimmer.

First: there are more pressing subjects. Perhaps, but if one prejudges a subject before seeing the work one will never know.

Second: it’s whiny. Obviously a gross generalization.

Re: my energy, I’ve devoted well below all my energy.

By: tom moody

tom moody — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:11:39 +0000

twhid, this is a classic straw man argument. I gave several reasons why “art about the art world” might blow–rather than respond to those you say I’ve declared the subject off limits and put all your energy into refuting that.

By: William Powhida

William Powhida — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:49:46 +0000

Subject matter isn’t always the same as content. How about desperation, despair, ambition, mania, narrative, hypothetical worlds that don’t exist, desire, greed, love…

…but then again, it’s always easier to generalize, makes the world easier navigate by keeping things simple.

By: twhid

twhid — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:36:05 +0000

Moody: “Art about the art world inherently blows”

I can never understand why some folks think certain subjects are inherently bad. It’s obvious to me that no subject is inherently bad — even the art world.

If a certain piece is naval-gazing bullshit, fine. If you think a certain subject is being over-explored (like skulls perhaps?), then say it.

But, to declare one subject off-limits because it “inherently blows” makes no sense.

Actually, good art about the art world is perhaps even harder to pull off because of the risks of a) naval-gazing and b) subject over-exposure.

By: tom moody

tom moody — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:40:34 +0000

More circles, gif animations, and electro, less whiny art about other people’s art and what a dreadful place the art world is, I say. Thanks for drawing the poles so clearly, m.river.